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Author Topic: 4 Motorcyclists dead in SoCal, and they can't find the guy who killed them  (Read 8330 times)
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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2010, 12:18:37 PM »

the drunk Mexican

What drunk Mexican? Quite a conclusion to leap to.
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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2010, 05:36:59 PM »

What drunk Mexican? Quite a conclusion to leap to.

if you read the link above, it's not a leap at all:  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/driver-motorcycle-club-crash-not-charged/

Authorities announced on Monday that no drunken driving charges would be filed against Carlos Ramirez Bobadilla, 36, of Mexicali, Mexico, who was injured in the crash when he veered into a dozen Saddletramps motorcycles while trying to avoid an oncoming car.


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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2010, 05:55:06 PM »

Mexican yes, drunk no. Tests showed no alcohol in his sytem. - Gene
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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2010, 09:10:53 PM »

personally  I hate riding in large groups as my options for manouver get squeezed , my condolences to the poor folks who died or lost friends and family and my the idiot who caused the accident rot in hell.
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2010, 09:13:00 AM »

if you read the link above, it's not a leap at all:  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/driver-motorcycle-club-crash-not-charged/

Authorities announced on Monday that no drunken driving charges would be filed


Right... No leap at all.

That article said no charges would be filed. Other articles have confirmed that his BAL was zero. Ramirez Bobadilla was a victim here.

Are all residents of Mexicali drunk Mexicans?
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2010, 06:13:42 PM »

Right... No leap at all.

That article said no charges would be filed. Other articles have confirmed that his BAL was zero. Ramirez Bobadilla was a victim here.

Are all residents of Mexicali drunk Mexicans?

When the post was originally made the driver was being held on suspicion of DUI and was subsequently tested and released.

Is the expectation now that users go back and edit their posts based on events that happen after they post?
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2010, 06:17:24 PM »

Tremendously sad. Be careful everyone.
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2010, 07:07:55 PM »

When the post was originally made the driver was being held on suspicion of DUI and was subsequently tested and released.

"Suspicion" is not the the same thing as facts. In this particular case, the suspicions were wrong. Conclusions were leapt to.

Is the expectation now that users go back and edit their posts based on events that happen after they post?

No. Perhaps it's my hope that next time people might think twice about whether they really have facts (as opposed to unsupported speculation) before posting. I do realize that's never really going to happen. That's why it's a hope rather than an expectation.

If you'll go back and look at my post, I quoted a link you posted and what you said about the fact that the driver was not being charged with DUI. Somehow, you thought the fact he had a BAL of 0 and wasn't being charged meant "it's not a leap at all" to refer to Ramirez Bobadilla as a "drunk Mexican."

The long and short of it is that even survivors at the scene and local authorities don't fully know what happened. For some reason, people with vastly less real information assume they do know.
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2010, 07:12:07 PM »

<snip> For some reason, people with vastly less real information assume they do know.
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2010, 07:14:40 PM »

If you'll go back and look at my post, I quoted a link you posted and what you said about the fact that the driver was not being charged with DUI. Somehow, you thought the fact he had a BAL of 0 and wasn't being charged meant "it's not a leap at all" to refer to Ramirez Bobadilla as a "drunk Mexican."


I was linking back to the fact that he was indeed Mexican, not the drunk part.  That's why I put the Mexicali part in bold.
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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2010, 01:35:33 AM »

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