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desmodoktor

#60
January 19, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
Cleaned out the surfaces with a P800 sandpaper. everything is ready for the assembly.
i have 2 questions:
1) Should i use some type of sealant on the gasket? (99% of the people who responded to my posts said NO)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnwepAGjEub2BTegodcc3lIazKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20110109185923AAqdaov

2) What torque foot/pounds , newton/meters should i use for the head nuts?

thank you .
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ducpainter

#61
January 19, 2011, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: svp88 on January 19, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
Cleaned out the surfaces with a P800 sandpaper. everything is ready for the assembly.
i have 2 questions:
1) Should i use some type of sealant on the gasket? (99% of the people who responded to my posts said NO)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnwepAGjEub2BTegodcc3lIazKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20110109185923AAqdaov

2) What torque foot/pounds , newton/meters should i use for the head nuts?

thank you .
If you're referring to the cylinder base gasket between the cylinder and cases then the answer is it absolutely needs sealer. There is no head gasket as it seals on the cylinder spigot. I would use some lapping compound on that joint to check that everything is right. Clean all the abrasive off before assembly.

The answer to your torque question is in here...http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=373.0
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desmodoktor

#62
January 19, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
Quote from: greenmonster on January 10, 2011, 05:06:58 AM
Where your LH finger points here
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs051.snc6/168113_10150372304075113_579190112_16881186_6706763_n.jpg
there should be an Oring.
If not, and PO sealed that oil passage w sealant, it could probably be the reason
for the oil leak.

There was no O-ring there when i removed the cylinder. there was just sealant around the hole.
Where can i purchase this O-ring? my parts book doesnt have it for some reason.
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ducpainter

#63
January 19, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
Part # is 93823.2037

Any dealer can get you one. We have 3 Ducati dealers as sponsors. I'm sure any one of them would send you one.

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    is even more amazing than yours."
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desmodoktor

#64
January 19, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on January 19, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
Part # is 93823.2037

Any dealer can get you one. We have 3 Ducati dealers as sponsors. I'm sure any one of them would send you one.

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thank you for your quick response dp.
i will go 2morrow by the dealer and get one.
do u think that might had caused the leak?
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ducpainter

#65
January 19, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
Quote from: svp88 on January 19, 2011, 09:04:05 PM

thank you for your quick response dp.
i will go 2morrow by the dealer and get one.
do u think that might had caused the leak?
It's very likely. It's also likely it was left out at the factory.

You still need to use sealer on that base gasket though. ;)

Many use 3-Bond. It is very similar to the factory sealer.
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desmodoktor

#66
January 19, 2011, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on January 19, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
It's very likely. It's also likely it was left out at the factory.

You still need to use sealer on that base gasket though. ;)

Many use 3-Bond. It is very similar to the factory sealer.


i think you are right... it was left out at the factory.
from what i heard from the previous owner, the leak started on 2-3000 miles. i got the bike with 4500miles.
yes, i will use the sealant. bought some type of gasket sealant from pepboys. i ll check out the brand 2morrow and post it so u ll give me the OK.
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desmodoktor

#67
January 20, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
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ducpainter

#68
January 21, 2011, 04:30:54 AM
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desmodoktor

#69
January 22, 2011, 12:08:51 PM
Went today at the dealer to get the Gaco Ring. part #938232037.
came back to the garage and tried it . it looks that its not supposed to be there. the oring is bigger than the hole.
if you put it around the hole and put the base gasket on.. theres going to be a gap between the base and the cylinder.
here are 2 pictures.



http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs071.snc6/168191_10150383604825113_579190112_17071621_3441400_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1384.snc4/163620_10150383605385113_579190112_17071630_5232926_n.jpg
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ducpainter

#70
January 22, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
Pretty sure the o-ring goes on the cylinder side of the gasket. There should be a relief cut in the cylinder.
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Howie

#71
January 22, 2011, 06:50:30 PM
The problem is your bile is an '02 therefore there is no groove for it.  Ducati stopped using the O ring in '01, so no more groove.  

ducpainter

#72
January 22, 2011, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: howie on January 22, 2011, 06:50:30 PM
The problem is your bile is an '02 therefore there is no groove for it.  Ducati stopped using the O ring in '01, so no more groove.  
Didn't work on the S4 either.
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Howie

#73
January 22, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on January 22, 2011, 07:03:51 PM
Didn't work on the S4 either.

The S4 needs to have the oil passage plugged.  The 2 valvers don't.

desmodoktor

#74
January 22, 2011, 08:11:40 PM
yeah.. there is no way for the oring to go there...
its not a big deal it cost me 1$.  [thumbsup]
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