J. Hopkins news

Started by Cider, December 08, 2010, 12:39:25 PM

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Cider

Nothing to do with Ducati, I know, but it's not often I see a statement like this that hasn't been watered down for the press:

http://forums.13x.com/showpost.php?p=3336199&postcount=5

El Matador

Quote from: Cider on December 08, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Nothing to do with Ducati, I know, but it's not often I see a statement like this that hasn't been watered down for the press:

http://forums.13x.com/showpost.php?p=3336199&postcount=5

I never liked hopper.  What a douche

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gm2

not really news, either.  this came out at the time.. hence JU  Never.  Saying.  Anything.  about hopper during last season.

would be ironic if the "anglo-american" did end up in BSB tho.
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Cider

Quote from: gm2 on December 08, 2010, 01:58:49 PM
not really news, either.  this came out at the time.. hence JU  Never.  Saying.  Anything.  about hopper during last season.

would be ironic if the "anglo-american" did end up in BSB tho.

Guess I missed it the first time around.  I was surprised to see such a frank statement.

gm2

all you really missed was the silence.  that was loud enough.
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derby

Quote from: Cider on December 08, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Nothing to do with Ducati, I know, but it's not often I see a statement like this that hasn't been watered down for the press:

http://forums.13x.com/showpost.php?p=3336199&postcount=5

the whole thread is full of win:

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?p=3336199#post3336199

i knew this was going to be "bad" for hopper when ulrich mentioned on the wera board (early in the season?) that hopper's upcoming surgery was a surprise to him.

Quote from: gm2 on December 08, 2010, 02:38:10 PM
all you really missed was the silence.  that was loud enough.

exactly...
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Quote from: derby on December 08, 2010, 02:44:03 PM
the whole thread is full of win:

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?p=3336199#post3336199

i knew this was going to be "bad" for hopper when ulrich mentioned on the wera board (early in the season?) that hopper's upcoming surgery was a surprise to him.

yeah...all kinds of a full of win...and your quoting in the thread of that surprise mentioning was nicely placed....


personally...I think Hopper has potential to be top of the second tier....but his credibility would be stretched to get his ass on a 2nd tier bike right now if any of that whole debacle really holds water as to how things REALLY went down....
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derby

Quote from: zooom on December 09, 2010, 05:21:21 AM
yeah...all kinds of a full of win...and your quoting in the thread of that surprise mentioning was nicely placed....


search function sucks on that board... took me forever to find that thread.  ;D
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gm2

Quote from: zooom on December 09, 2010, 05:21:21 AM
personally...I think Hopper has potential to be top of the second tier....but his credibility would be stretched to get his ass on a 2nd tier bike right now if any of that whole debacle really holds water as to how things REALLY went down....

huh?  i think you can take JU's word as being how it went down.

hopper started getting pretty good results toward the end of the season.  and neither he nor the team said a word about it.  bridge dun burned. 

sad really, considering Ulrich is where john-john got his start and there was all that homecoming hoopla pre-season.
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Cider


derby

Quote from: Cider on December 09, 2010, 08:46:14 PM
I was wondering if something like this would happen  :-\

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/john-ulrich-john-hopkins-injury-contract/

wrote that whole article from following the conversation on the wera board and evidently didn't even bother to call ulrich and interview him directly...

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?p=3338411#post3338411
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zooom

Quote from: gm2 on December 09, 2010, 10:18:02 AM
huh?  i think you can take JU's word as being how it went down.


all I was getting at was from a general perspective on how there are 3 sides to every story...person 1's, person 2's, and the truth that lies somewhere in between...in this case...Hopper hasn't said a thing, which everyone is implying his guilt by a lack of defense, when in reality...he has as of yet to publicly say anything in admission or defense....

don't get me wrong...I am not defending him...just sayin...
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Quote from: zooom on December 10, 2010, 05:14:24 AM
all I was getting at was from a general perspective on how there are 3 sides to every story...person 1's, person 2's, and the truth that lies somewhere in between...in this case...Hopper hasn't said a thing, which everyone is implying his guilt by a lack of defense, when in reality...he has as of yet to publicly say anything in admission or defense....

don't get me wrong...I am not defending him...just sayin...

there's not a lot of upside to him opening his mouth. it's either "ulrich is lying," "i misled ulrich," or "i didn't realize how injured i was..."

he couldn't move his wrist, so the latter wouldn't really hold weight in my eyes.

furthermore, given that hopper (apparently) arranged surgery himself without first speaking to anybody on the team speaks volumes.

i'd like to say id be surprised if we hear anything from him but, on the other hand, i suppose something will have to be said to convince potential future rides/sponsors for hopper.
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gm2

Quote from: derby on December 10, 2010, 07:11:07 AM
i suppose something will have to be said to convince potential future rides/sponsors for hopper.

his performance at the end of the season probably started to do that.  but yeah, i'm sure he'll have to discuss his fitness, sign something, etc

wonder if monster will keep him around.  i suppose if he gets a BSB ride, why not
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