Pure Gas

[kopfjäger]

 

[Fergus]

The Shell stations around me all have just one pump branded V-Tec (91) and that's the pure stuff.

The only shell in my town has V-Power, not V-Tech, but maybe I missed a pump. I'll have to look more thoroughly next time I'm there. The V-Power has the moonshine in it http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411398.

[cyberswine]

Something going on with Shell here in Ontario.  I started using their ethanol free last year and certain pumps were clearly labelled "ethanol free".  I've been happily filling with the stuff this spring but now I check the Shell.ca website and there's not one word on ethanol.  The Pure Gas site still indicates their 91 octane is pure but I'm not so sure that's still correct.  I have to ride around and check all the pumps at all the local stations because I haven't paid attention this year.

[kopfjäger]

Something going on with Shell here in Ontario.  I started using their ethanol free last year and certain pumps were clearly labelled "ethanol free".  I've been happily filling with the stuff this spring but now I check the Shell.ca website and there's not one word on ethanol.  The Pure Gas site still indicates their 91 octane is pure but I'm not so sure that's still correct.  I have to ride around and check all the pumps at all the local stations because I haven't paid attention this year.

They have to post contains ethanol on their pumps if it has it. At least in the states.

[cyberswine]

....quiet night at work.  I just googled the issue and browsed some car forums, seems nobody knows for sure, all kinds of different opinions and misinformation on the Shell 91 product.

[ducatiz]

Something going on with Shell here in Ontario.  I started using their ethanol free last year and certain pumps were clearly labelled "ethanol free".  I've been happily filling with the stuff this spring but now I check the Shell.ca website and there's not one word on ethanol.  The Pure Gas site still indicates their 91 octane is pure but I'm not so sure that's still correct.  I have to ride around and check all the pumps at all the local stations because I haven't paid attention this year.

Gas formulations vary widely by country and even by state (here in the US).  If they're advertising it as ethanol free, then it likely is.

You can usually email them from the website, try that.

[sgollapalle]

I had bought a ethanol tester kit last year. Most Shell near me have 7-10% in the vpower. The sunoco 100 octane race fuel I managed to find also had 5% ethanol.

I have given up my thirst for pure gas. ..

[Curmudgeon]

I had bought a ethanol tester kit last year. Most Shell near me have 7-10% in the vpower. The sunoco 100 octane race fuel I managed to find also had 5% ethanol.

I have given up my thirst for pure gas. ..

Where are you? NYC metro? At the pump you need to get FAR away from the big cities to find pure gas.

If you can locate a Sunoco racing fuel dealer selling most of the products, the 98 M+R/2 unleaded is alcohol-free. http://www.racegas.com/fuel/8 I have one ~ 30 miles from me. (For "off-road use"  )

[sgollapalle]

Right now, yes. I tried to find distributors all last year, but all of them only sold 5/30/50 gallon drums. Getting only 5 gal wasn't worth the effort. If I have a 50 gal drum of fuel in my back yard. The possibility of the  thinking I'm blowing up the city is pretty high!

[Curmudgeon]

In NJ I used to keep a 15 gal. galvanized drum the CAM II dealer sold in my garage for convenience. Now I have 4 5-gal. race jugs but only make that trip once a year. Only the 796 and one of my cars uses it. I'll make 2 - 3 more trips to the mountains ~ 70 miles to buy pure 93 which is a LOT cheaper.  Hope that doesn't go away. I know the race gas dealer won't. http://www.worldwideracingfuels.com/road.aspx?categoryID=5

[Curmudgeon]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/16/ethanol-concerns-bring-customers-to-more-costly-pure-gas-stations/?test=latestnews

[cyberswine]

Interesting article.  FWIW the Shell V Power I referred to previously in S. Ont. IS still ethanol free.  I did in fact contact Shell.ca from their website asking about general availability.  I got an automated response from Shell Pty in South Africa telling me I would get a response soon.  There was no other response.  Their Cdn. web site still makes no reference to ethanol whatsoever and oddly enough they are advertising the V Power on TV up here promoting the Nitrogen rich cleansers.  No mention of ethanol, ever.  Assuming they are shy due to some kind of regulatory concern I am dummying up because I don't want to be part of killing the goose that lays golden eggs.  I'm OK (for now):  sorry about you guys.

[Drjones]

Everyone needs to look up EROI (Energy Return on Investment).  There was an article in the May issue of The American Society of Mechanical Engineering's monthly periodical "Mechanical Engineering" where they plotted various energy sources.  Ethanol scored less than 2; a 1 means spending as much energy producing it as you get out of it.  Freaking oil sands which is the least productive method of petroleum recovery scored a 3.  The article recommends not wasting time on anything below a 5.

Oh yeah, the most bang for your buck is conservation. Shocking eh? Walk and you don't spend any money on energy sources.

From the Fox article:  "Proponents say E-15 will save drivers 5 cents more a gallon . . ."  coughBScough.  Carpool one day a week and you'll save a whole lot more than 5 cents a gallon plus it won't f-up your vehicle.

[Drjones]

Article is up on ASME; Pg 26.  http://www.asme.org/kb/newsletters/me-magazine-previous-issue

[ducatiz]

Article is up on ASME; Pg 26.  http://www.asme.org/kb/newsletters/me-magazine-previous-issue

What's the skinny?