Pure Gas

[Uncle Mofo]

from this thread I assume that what I heard at work it's not true... I was told BP's gas still 100% pure?

[thought]

from this thread I assume that what I heard at work it's not true... I was told BP's gas still 100% pure?

it might depending on the region, but very very high chance no.  i can say for sure that it's e10 here in the nj/nyc area.

next time you fill up, take a look at the pump... it will say if it's e10 or not.

[ducatiz]

it might depending on the region, but very very high chance no.  i can say for sure that it's e10 here in the nj/nyc area.

next time you fill up, take a look at the pump... it will say if it's e10 or not.

These states do not require pumps to be label E10/gasohol/ethanol enriched:

District of Columbia - DC,  Indiana - In,  Kansas - KS,  Kentucky - KY,  Maryland - MD,  Michigan - MI,  Minnesota - MN,  Missouri - MO,  Nevada - NV, New Hampshire - NH  - New Jersey - NJ,  North Carolina - NC,  Ohio - OH.

All the other states have some form of labeling requirement.

[Uncle Mofo]

Yup no labeling in Indiana 

[Howie]

from this thread I assume that what I heard at work it's not true... I was told BP's gas still 100% pure?

At this point E10 is the only option in most of the US.  Though there is no direct federal mandate requiring E10  there is a mandate that "Nonattainment Areas for Criteria Pollutants" take corrective action.   Many states chose to do this by requiring "clean (oxygenated) fuel"  MBTE was  originally the oxygenate of choice  Due to concerns of the carcinogenic affect of MBTE it was banned.  The replacement was ethanol.  A pretty good guess is if you live near a city or a highly industrial area E10 is mandated.

[kopfjäger]

Sta-Bil has a new (?) product you can use to help un-make the beast with two backs E10 while the vehicle is in use.

[DRKWNG]

I like how it's recommended for use at every fill-up. 

[ducatiz]

Sta-Bil has a new (?) product you can use to help un-make the beast with two backs E10 while the vehicle is in use.

link?

[DRKWNG]

link?

It's at the bottom.

http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#SET

[ducatiz]

It's at the bottom.

http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#SET

it's 95% naptha, same as the current Sta-bil marine formula.  The other 5% is valve lube and color.

[kopfjäger]

it's 95% naptha, same as the current Sta-bil marine formula.  The other 5% is valve lube and color.

Badged in the marine formula, probably wouldn't spark interest outside of the water folks.

Next time someone gets their 3rd or 4th pos tank from Ducati, they should try this product to see
if it helps.

[ducatiz]

I don't know that naphtha is so good for nylon either!

[1KDS]

This all seems strange to me.  Here in Nebraska, EVERY gas station sells 87, 89 (E-10) and 91.  So are they sneaking ethanol into the 87 and 91 without labeling it or is 89/E-10 the only one with ethanol? 

[kopfjäger]

Should only be the one marked. If you can catch the tanker truck, ask the driver.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't know that naphtha is so good for nylon either!

Hello ducatiz,

The marine formula treatment is (1) fl. oz. (30ml) / 10 gal. (38L), so not a very strong concentration. Any way you could confirm whether it's harmless to PA6? I no longer have industry contacts since retiring.

Where did you read about naphtha content, BTW? I couldn't find that in the FAQ on the Stabil site and the bottle only states that it contains petroleum distillates. I've been relying on these paragraphs:

"Q: Is MARINE Formula STA-BIL® Ethanol Treatment safe to use?
A: MARINE Formula STA-BIL is completely safe to use in any engine powered by gasoline, gasoline/oil mixtures, and ethanol blends. It contains no additives that could harm a fuel tank or fuel lines, or an engine, fuel injectors or intake valves. Use of STA-BIL will not void any engine warranty. In addition, over treatment is safe and will not harm engine."

"Q: Does your product protect the fuel lines? Does it protect rubber gaskets and plastic parts? What parts of the Fuel system does Marine Formula STA-BIl protect, and how?
A: NO additive, including Marine Formula STA-BIl can protect rubbers and plastics that are not designed for exposure to Ethanol or other chemicals found in gasoline. Marine Formula was designed to protect against corrosion on any metal components of the fuel system. This product is also an excellent fuel system cleaner, removing deposits that have accumulated on the carburetor, fuel injectors or intake valve."

"Q: How does Marine Formula STA-BIL handle water?
A: Ethanol blended fuels can naturally hold up to 4 tbsp of water per gallon (about 0.5%) before phase separation occurs. Marine Formula STA-BIL® contains a chemical that will absorb an additional fraction of a percent of water above this amount (around 0.2%), by bonding with the water molecules, allowing this additional amount to pass safely through the engine and out through the tailpipe. Any amount above this will drop to the bottom and phase separate. Removing large amounts of water (more than 0.75%) through bonding will cause poor power/acceleration and sometimes cause the engine to quit. Additionally, it can cause catastrophic engine damage. No engine manufacturer recommends removal of these large amounts of water through bonding."

Best regards! William