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Started by Artful, January 12, 2011, 02:17:34 PM

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Artful

#30
January 13, 2011, 09:17:38 AM
The only thing using Pin 22 is the main ground from the gauge and the ground from the indicator LED in my design.

Pin 22 is the ground for both the switch and the dash harness, it doesn't run from Pin 22 to the center pole THEN ground. Believe me, I've caught lots of my own mistakes as I've been doing this. All your help is greatly appreciated.

Soldering this thing and making it small enough to fit behind the windscreen should be "intriguing"  [laugh]
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Drunken Monkey

#31
January 13, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
Dumb question: Are the "constant power" inputs truly constant or are they switched power supplies?

It just seems odd that there are two +12v inputs, where it's more typical to have one switched input and one truly constant input.
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Artful

#32
January 13, 2011, 11:09:42 AM
Factory wiring shows one wire coming off the fusebox (pin 1) which feeds from a wire right off the battery (pin 9), then a split to the two pins. Doesn't make sense to me why they would do that either, but if you want I can post the diagram.
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ducpainter

#33
January 13, 2011, 11:35:24 AM
Quote from: Artful on January 13, 2011, 09:17:38 AM
The only thing using Pin 22 is the main ground from the gauge and the ground from the indicator LED in my design.

Pin 22 is the ground for both the switch and the dash harness, it doesn't run from Pin 22 to the center pole THEN ground. Believe me, I've caught lots of my own mistakes as I've been doing this. All your help is greatly appreciated.

Soldering this thing and making it small enough to fit behind the windscreen should be "intriguing"  [laugh]
Or at least an exercise in frustration.  ;D

I'd need to see the whole factory diagram, cluster and ignition switch included, and what you propose to try to 'help' anymore.

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Artful

#34
January 13, 2011, 11:53:06 AM Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 11:55:19 AM by Artful
Ask and ye shall receive. 3 is Ignition, Turn is in section 34. Hope you have your reading glasses out...



Ah hell. Is there a way to post oversize images with scroll bars?

Here's the direct image link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/Trailtech/FactoryHarness.gif
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ducpainter

#35
January 13, 2011, 11:55:41 AM
Quote from: Artful on January 13, 2011, 11:53:06 AM
Ask and ye shall receive. Hope you have your reading glasses out...



Ah hell. Is there a way to post oversize images with scroll bars?

Here's the direct image link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/Trailtech/FactoryHarness.gif
I have to go across town and break out my telescope.

I'll get back to you. ;)
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Artful

#36
January 13, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
I'll save a larger one once I get out of this conference call  [laugh]
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ducpainter

#37
January 13, 2011, 12:04:34 PM
Quote from: Artful on January 13, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
I'll save a larger one once I get out of this conference call  [laugh]
Help a brother out and save the legend too...K? ;)
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Artful

#38
January 13, 2011, 12:47:20 PM Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 12:48:56 PM by Artful
Alright, this should keep the squinting to a minimum.

Key:



Schematic - Remember to click to zoom to full size once the image loads: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/Trailtech/FactoryHarnessBig.gif
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Drunken Monkey

#39
January 13, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
I went ahead and got the diagram off the owner's manual (PDF FTW!)

So yeah, 26/23 are in fact 'always on' connections.

I'm not sure you always want to be sending power to the Veypor since that means it'll be, well, always on. This may eventually drain your battery, etc.

I'd recommend instead using the #2 input so this way it'll actually shut down when you turn off the bike.

Mind you, if the Veypor's power requirements are reaaaaly low you could have it on all the time. But I'm guessing the unit has a back light and even that'll probably draw more current than you'd like.
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Artful

#40
January 13, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on January 13, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
I went ahead and got the diagram off the owner's manual (PDF FTW!)

So yeah, 26/23 are in fact 'always on' connections.

I'm not sure you always want to be sending power to the Veypor since that means it'll be, well, always on. This may eventually drain your battery, etc.

I'd recommend instead using the #2 input so this way it'll actually shut down when you turn off the bike.

Mind you, if the Veypor's power requirements are reaaaaly low you could have it on all the time. But I'm guessing the unit has a back light and even that'll probably draw more current than you'd like.


That was my exact thought but I wasn't sure so I emailed Trailtech. The short answer is that the unit has an auto-off after 20 minutes that only displays the clock with no backlight (so probably about the same draw as the blinking factory immobilizer LED). They recommended against using the switched power because it has a tendency to reset the computer at times.
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Drunken Monkey

#41
January 13, 2011, 01:38:10 PM
Cool, then I'd say you're good to go and that actually sounds like a cool feature on the Veypor (I assume 'off' means 0 RPM) [thumbsup]

BTW: the one item I don't see wired up is the "ECU warning light" Might I suggest a discreetly hidden LED just in case you need to diagnose something later?
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Artful

#42
January 13, 2011, 01:41:36 PM
Off means 0 rpm and 0 mph. Either one will kick on the 'puter.

Yeah, I didn't wire up the ECU warning light or the high beam indicator. I might consider them in the future, for now they seem kinda pointless to me. As an owner of a VW, I only got concerned when the Check Engine Light went off.  [laugh]
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Duck-Stew

#43
January 14, 2011, 05:05:48 AM
As you have it laid out in your diagram, it'll work fine.   [thumbsup]


DM's right about wiring up an LED or lamp to check for fault codes, etc...  Would be nice to know if somethings wrong.  Could make the leads long enough & park it under the tank...
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Artful

#44
January 17, 2011, 11:29:24 PM
Issue. The fuel light doesn't kick off. OEM gauges light the indicator for a few seconds then kicks off. With the LED on switched power and the ground wire going to pin 20 the LED stays on.

Anyone with a bright idea? Bright idea... LED lamp... get it?
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