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Vyrus to Enter into Moto2 for 2011
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http://blog.motorcycle.com/2011/01/14/design/2011-vyrus-moto2-grand-prix-racer-preview/
. . . The next Vyrus chapter begins with an entry into the FIM Moto2 Grand Prix series for the 2011 season, making the 986 model the first hub-center-steered bike to be raced in this class. As with all Moto2 machines, it is powered by a version of Honda’s CBR600RR engine. . . .
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Wow...it'll be interesting to see how the hub steering fairs against traditionally suspended bikes.
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Very cool!
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Re: Vyrus to Enter into Moto2 for 2011
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January 14, 2011, 04:33:53 PM »
Hub centered steering has been "the next big thing" for the last 20 years
Still hopefully the Moto2 formula will help them get more traction (ha ha) with the idea.
In the past the teams with hub-steered bikes like this also had to produce a competitive powerplants. Now that that part has been equalized, hub-centered steering will be able to compete in a level playing field...
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January 14, 2011, 07:44:01 PM »
I think it will be quite interesting to watch for sure. As I recall, one of the interesting advantages to that type of front end, is the stability and lack of dive under braking. I'm looking forward to it, although who will be riding the bikes?
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Probably more un-known yahoos like the ones that were causing huge pile ups in every race last year. Shit, I'm suprised I didn't get a Moto2 race contract last year. I have two legs and a heart beat... that qualifies me doesn't it?
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Quote from: Jester on January 14, 2011, 07:44:01 PM
As I recall, one of the interesting advantages to that type of front end, is the stability and lack of dive under braking.
I've also heard they are hard on front tires. Wonder if that will be a problem in a spec. tire series where everybody else uses a conventional front end?
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Quote from: oldfastwin on January 14, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
Probably more un-known yahoos like the ones that were causing huge pile ups in every race last year. Shit, I'm suprised I didn't get a Moto2 race contract last year. I have two legs and a heart beat... that qualifies me doesn't it?
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Just kidding Brian
I think this is awesome, I've always liked Vyrus's design and this is truly the place to test the feasibility of it. I hope they can get their hands on a good rider to maximize the potential for R&D
Now all we're missing is MotoCysz and their funky front end and we'll truly have a development class.
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well I think there are two possible outcomes that could be bad for Vryus
1- They are shit fast and blow everyone away. Other teams will complain about the non-standard front suspension and make it illegal.
2- They are shit slow and the blow out front tires causing wrecks. Other teams will complain about the non-standard front suspension and make it illegal.
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Quote from: El Matador on January 15, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
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Just kidding Brian
I think this is awesome, I've always liked Vyrus's design and this is truly the place to test the feasibility of it. I hope they can get their hands on a good rider to maximize the potential for R&D
Now all we're missing is MotoCysz and their funky front end and we'll truly have a development class.
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Quote from: oldfastwin on January 15, 2011, 02:01:36 PM
I think the Tesi is a cool as shit bike.
I do find it interesting that Bimota is NOT using the Tesi suspension for their Moto2
Wonder if they'll compete it now, especially if Vyrus does well. Vyrus could potentially steal Bimota Tesi customers with a race proven chassis.
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January 15, 2011, 02:55:54 PM »
Good question and good point!
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Re: Vyrus to Enter into Moto2 for 2011
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Quote from: Raux on January 15, 2011, 02:42:58 PM
I do find it interesting that Bimota is NOT using the Tesi suspension for their Moto2
Wonder if they'll compete it now, especially if Vyrus does well. Vyrus could potentially steal Bimota Tesi customers with a race proven chassis.
From the article, it sounds like Vyrus builds the Tesi for Bimota.
Might have something to do with it...
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January 15, 2011, 09:35:48 PM »
If this set-up does eliminate front end dive then it'll be interesting to watch, as I thought a certain amount of front end dive was necessary to load up the front tire to provide grip under hard braking.
BMW has a pretty fancy front suspension system which eliminates front end dive...and it's absent on their SBK.
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Quote from: Triple J on January 15, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
If this set-up does eliminate front end dive then it'll be interesting to watch, as I thought a certain amount of front end dive was necessary to load up the front tire to provide grip under hard braking.
BMW has a pretty fancy front suspension system which eliminates front end dive...and it's absent on their SBK.
The dive itself is a product of the forked front suspension setup. In one sense, yes you lose some weight transfer, but the loads of stopping the bike should still be transferred to the front tire, regardless if its under heavy dive or not. I think the overall benefit is a more balanced feel and stability when entering the corner.
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