Carrozzeria wheels?

[atomic410]

Alot of racers are not using marchesinis anymore because of how bad the cush drives are and how on some applications they only last a race weekend or 2.  the replacement parts are really expensive as well and really hard to get.  I'd love to get a pair of oz's but again $600 for 2-3 claimed pounds.  I gotta draw the line somewhere.

[ducpainter]

Guess they gotta save a buck somewheres.

I used to "understand" the price discrepancy between the marchesini forged aluminum wheels and the carrozzerias, with the weight differences and such, but then the OZ wheels came out and cost the same but weigh less and got rave reviews in the mags, I don't see how Marchesinis can be priced the same and expected to sell. I suppose some people want the same wheel as on an "S" model, but I doubt that many are so picky when confronted with a dollar/performance option that's more favorable.

It's brand recognition IMO.

Some people have to have the most expensive because they think it's the best. In this economy the manufacturers will need to start rethinking their pricing policies.

Unless you're Toomuchmoney and work a deal with anther manufacturer so your product is the only one that will bolt on and 'work'.

[Raux]

Anybody know how other brands stack up? Like PVM?

Here's some info on the PVMs from Durbahn

http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/products/_PVM_R%C3%A4der/PVM

[junior varsity]

I think i will gather info and make a spreadsheet at some point. Just for sake of curiosity and reference. It would be nice to see a $/# chart (using msrp).

[xplodee]

One nice thing about Marchesini's is that they're around on ebay for somewhere around $1-2k used, which is a decent savings over buying them new. They're also pretty good looking compared to the Carrozzeria's or OZ's... But I've always preferred the split spoke style.

[atomic410]

cast alm ones are easy to find not forged.  2 different types of wheels

[xplodee]

cast alm ones are easy to find not forged.  2 different types of wheels

There are plenty of forged ones on eBay too. I've been scouting bc I'm planning on buying a set...

[junior varsity]

Not for a deal - i check regularly too. If its not under 2k, its no deal for those (and even if its over 1.8k, i'm going to pass)

[atomic410]

esp for dss monsters.  848 wheels seem easy to find, but the prices i've seen i wouldn't call a deal.  1500 is a deal anything more not so much imo

[atomic410]

a little follow up; the carrozzeria's weigh as follows; front 7.1lbs rear 13.1lbs.  these weights are complete according to their tech support.  this includes carrier and bearing with needed spacers.

afwiw I just bough a front magnesium marvic penta and it weighs 16.5lbs with a bridgestone slick and all of the necessary bearings. a front slick is about 9.5lbs so mags are about a pound less for the front, but a hell of alot more ching.

[junior varsity]

nice!

which wheel did you end up getting? (I assume for DSS since you said carrier)

[atomic410]

I found a used front marvic penta on the cheep and am still looking for a rear.  i might put it off until i come across something in my web, but i'd prefer a matching marvic or a OZ.  we'll see what happens.  carrozzeria only sells sets.  I was going to buy a set of magnesium dymags but their weighs are within a pound or 2 of the stockers so it didn't seem worth it.  i'm not in a big hurry because i might build a 800/900ss next winter then the rear wheel would be obsolite however the front will cross over.  maybe i'm cheep but these wheels are a big investment to me so I'd like to get as much use on as many bikes as possible or at least know what i'm doing next season before i get a rear, unless i find one cheep.

[junior varsity]

I did just a BST front on my M900 (it was used and a good deal, budget allowed at the time). I'm slowly saving for the matching rear, but in the meantime I couldn't wait - I went on put the front BST on the bike. WOW. Big difference in turning the bike. (Can't say much about braking as the 6-piston ISR calipers went on at the same time and there aren't many hills around here where you'd be doing a lot of down-hill braking - the Monster only gets going so fast afterall...)

not that i'm saying, go on and get that front wheel, but don't talk yourself out of it.


With Carrozzeria - what happens if you bend a front on a pothole on the street? Gotta buy a new set? That's not cool.

[Raux]

I found a used front marvic penta on the cheep and am still looking for a rear.  i might put it off until i come across something in my web, but i'd prefer a matching marvic or a OZ.  we'll see what happens.  carrozzeria only sells sets.  I was going to buy a set of magnesium dymags but their weighs are within a pound or 2 of the stockers so it didn't seem worth it.  i'm not in a big hurry because i might build a 800/900ss next winter then the rear wheel would be obsolite however the front will cross over.  maybe i'm cheep but these wheels are a big investment to me so I'd like to get as much use on as many bikes as possible or at least know what i'm doing next season before i get a rear, unless i find one cheep.

why would the rear be obsolete on the SS?

[atomic410]

axle size.  however i could pay for new guts for it.  I did buy the marvic front just putting off the rear for now