696 fork swap help

Started by Link, February 05, 2011, 09:34:27 AM

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Raux

not sure how tall you are, but if you get the 1100 rear suspension clevis mount you can raise the rear and front about an inch to make those forks look a bit better if you are going to keep the bars.

Link

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 26, 2011, 01:58:44 PM
LOL holy protruding fork tops Batman!  :o I'd lose the bars and go to clipons if faced with that arrangement. But hey not my bike. Great job anyway, bet she rides much mo betta. [thumbsup]

Yeah, that's 2 inches of tube above the triple ! I'm prolly the only one to do this mod & not have clip ons if it wasn't for those 60mm risers it would be a no go. This is my GF bike & she likes the up right riding position so the bars are staying. Anyway the rain quit & I got in a good ride the forks are awesome ! The bike used to corner fairly well but now this thing just flat rips, stable as as anything very confidence inspiring it feels like it's on rails very smooth even over very bumpy roads at high speed. I was pushing it pretty hard & never felt close to the edge. This fork mod turned out much better then I thought it would it now feels like a well sorted out race bike but still plush enough for street riding.

Link

Quote from: Raux on March 26, 2011, 02:19:42 PM
not sure how tall you are, but if you get the 1100 rear suspension clevis mount you can raise the rear and front about an inch to make those forks look a bit better if you are going to keep the bars.

The GF is plenty tall enough so that sounds like the way to go. Is that mount at the top of shock or at swing arm ? ebay has a bunch of 1100 "dog bone" type mounts but they don't look like they would fit the & there listed for the Hyper & Multi nothing for the Monster 1100.

K-Style

#33
I will be keeping a handlebar setup too with my fork swap. My Rizoma Bar arrives this week with 42mm risers.  I may have to custom make some risers because the speedymoto riser top triple only offers a 20mm rise over stock. I want standard 'rise' which should be possible with my forks.

Doesn't look like Rizoma risers will fit the Speedymoto triple from the pics available on the webb. Christian wasn't able to confirm or not.



Cheers

Scott
Ducati 696
Brembo HP Front and Rear Calipers. Brembo 19RCS. Hel Brake lines. Rizoma Prototype Mirrors.

K-Style

Oh and as for height I was thinking the bike looks good sitting so low that I'll raise it with a DP performance seat. Best of both worlds  [moto]
Ducati 696
Brembo HP Front and Rear Calipers. Brembo 19RCS. Hel Brake lines. Rizoma Prototype Mirrors.

Raux

To raise the rear there is a $20 metal piece that mounts on top of the shock connecting it to the subframe. the 696 one is about 1/4" smaller than the 1100's but that amounts to about an 1" rise on the rear. You can get it at any dealer.

Here's a thread where I better described it

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=30414.msg527082#msg527082


K-Style

#36
Thanks. That's pretty simple. I'll only do that if I need to ie forks won't fit. I think the DP seat will be on the list before the fork swap - for rider comfort.
Ducati 696
Brembo HP Front and Rear Calipers. Brembo 19RCS. Hel Brake lines. Rizoma Prototype Mirrors.

Raux

I have both so my 696 is significantly taller

K-Style

It's probably worth it then? I'll order the part at the same time as the seat.
Ducati 696
Brembo HP Front and Rear Calipers. Brembo 19RCS. Hel Brake lines. Rizoma Prototype Mirrors.

Raux

Quote from: K-Style on March 27, 2011, 03:33:58 AM
It's probably worth it then? I'll order the part at the same time as the seat.

it's easily reversible if you don't like it.. for <30... not a bad mod. you more cornering clearance which is a plus

Link

Quote from: Raux on March 27, 2011, 12:29:17 AM
To raise the rear there is a $20 metal piece that mounts on top of the shock connecting it to the subframe. the 696 one is about 1/4" smaller than the 1100's but that amounts to about an 1" rise on the rear. You can get it at any dealer.

Here's a thread where I better described it

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=30414.msg527082#msg527082



Nice, that's perfect a $30 fix that solves 2 problems.


Quote from: K-Style on March 26, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
I will be keeping a handlebar setup too with my fork swap. My Rizoma Bar arrives this week with 42mm risers.  I may have to custom make some risers because the speedymoto riser top triple only offers a 20mm rise over stock. I want standard 'rise' which should be possible with my forks.

Doesn't look like Rizoma risers will fit the Speedymoto triple from the pics available on the webb. Christian wasn't able to confirm or not.



Cheers

Scott

The 20mm rise over stock is what the Rizoma 60mm risers give you so the forks will work with the speedymoto riser. One thing I had done was re-spring the forks to my GF weight the 848 stockers have 9.5's in them. I could have gone 8.5's but I went 9's and less preload and that's why there's over 5 lines showing above the top nut which put's the top screw about 8mm below the bars. You can pick up 5-10mm of clearance just by adding some pre-load. Anyway not sure how good those 848 forks are stock but as I said I had them re-valved by Catalyst Reaction www.feelthetrack.com and they are fantastic. I've have done many re-valves, cartridge kits ect. and full on Ohlins forks & IMO these 848 forks feel as good as any of those. Of coarse I'm not taking the 696 to the track (then it would time for a new rear shock) but if your forks have some miles on them I'd get em serviced & re valved prior to installing them. If your springs rate is correct the service and re valve is prob. under 200 bucks.

corey

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Quote from: corey on March 29, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
CLIP. ONS.


I agree fully.
TALL. BOYS.
WOOD. CRAFT.

Yes I think in this instance, clipons with rise are a better solution. Handlebars with tall risers are a clumsy way to try to solve this problem, just look at those compression adjusters. They're touching the bars! Riser clipons will allow for the upright riding position that is desired in this case, and allow for full access to the fork adjusters. Also, they look better.
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Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 29, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
I agree fully.
TALL. BOYS.
WOOD. CRAFT.

Yes I think in this instance, clipons with rise are a better solution. Handlebars with tall risers are a clumsy way to try to solve this problem, just look at those compression adjusters. They're touching the bars! Riser clipons will allow for the upright riding position that is desired in this case, and allow for full access to the fork adjusters. Also, they look better.

BOOM.
When all the land lays in ruin... And burnination has forsaken the countryside... Only one guy will remain... My money's on...

Link

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 29, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
I agree fully.
TALL. BOYS.
WOOD. CRAFT.

Yes I think in this instance, clipons with rise are a better solution. Handlebars with tall risers are a clumsy way to try to solve this problem, just look at those compression adjusters. They're touching the bars! Riser clipons will allow for the upright riding position that is desired in this case, and allow for full access to the fork adjusters. Also, they look better.

The adjusters are not touching there is about 8-10mm of clearance from bar to adj I would not put a bike together like that you can also adjust them as it sits. The bar & risers were put on long before I decided to swap forks. The one thing I never checked into was the length of the 848 fork (my bad) I agree with you guy's clip ons should be used, but I've mentioned before this is my GF bike and how much coin I spend on it is driving right now. The bar & risers were a B-day gift and the forks were because I'm a nice guy and after a few rides on the 696 I decided that this bike is way to nice to have such POS forks on it. So maybe after the ride height clevis mod & pod filter mod I will look into some clip on's and sell the Rizoma stuff. But bottom line is how well the 848 forks preform they are stellar it really changed the way the bike handles, maybe I'll just throw a paper bag over the bars when parked.