Rotor differences?

Started by Blue, February 08, 2011, 09:10:17 AM

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Blue

What are the difference between the following rotors (weight, floating, etc) besides the looks?
#1

#2

#3

Speeddog

#1
I'm pretty sure all of them are semi-floating.

#1 - heaviest - 4mm thick rotor - carrier is steel - 1822g for a worn-out one, thickness below minimum of 3.6mm



#2 - slightly lighter -  4mm thick rotor - carrier is steel - 1684g for a low-miles unit, 1710g brand new



#3 - lightest - Carrier is definitely aluminum, that style is known as 'snowflake' - 5mm thick rotor - 1664g brand new



#4 - Even lighter - BrakeTech 320mm dia x 6mm thick semi-narrow band iron full floater - 1586g brand new



#5 - Small rotor from S2R800, M695, some M620 300mm x 4mm - 1578g used



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Brembo T-drive 320mm diA x 5mm thick narrow band  5-bolt - 1485g brand new

BONUS - Chinese 'wave' rotor -5mm thick rotor - aluminum carrier - 1436g brand new

BONUS - Just 'cause I had one - Rear OEM Monster Brembo rotor - 876g brand new

( Off Brand, OEM Yamaha 320mm stainless blade, 5mmm thick, aluminum carrier - 1822g )
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battlecry

Speeddog, I got #2s in my 2003, and a magnet sticks to the carrier. 

Speeddog

Quote from: battlecry on February 08, 2011, 11:26:39 AM
Speeddog, I got #2s in my 2003, and a magnet sticks to the carrier. 

Thanks, I went back and edited/added to my post.  [beer]
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junior varsity

Yes. I would like to add that the 'swiss cheese' rotors of #1 suck the most. (not just because they weigh a ridiculous amount, but that's a good bit of it).

erkishhorde

Quote from: a m on February 08, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
Yes. I would like to add that the 'swiss cheese' rotors of #1 suck the most. (not just because they weigh a ridiculous amount, but that's a good bit of it).

Dang, that's what I've had on my bike for years.  :-[
ErkZ NOT in SLO w/ his '95 m900!
The end is in sight! Gotta buckle down and get to work!

junior varsity

i mean, same here, but in regards to the latest and the greatest, the latest and greatest are later and greater.

koko64

Anyone know what the old SBK/Superlight/Monster S cast iron rotors weigh with the alloy carriers?
2015 Scrambler 800

Speeddog

BrakeTech are indeed good parts, I really like mine.  :)

But.... the Brembos shown above are available for ~1/2 the cost.
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junior varsity

Quote from: Carbon 14 on February 08, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
None of the above make much sense to me.  BrakeTech is the only setup that floats fully yet transfers the braking force directly.  Better by design & the weight is low.

Guess you haven't seen t-drive yet.

Blue

Wow, thanks everyone for taking the time to respond.  The weights are what I was after most, but also braking performance was important. 
I have rotors #2 on my scoot.
I am just thinking about mods to the bike, both short and long term.
The suspension is done (Ohlins rear and racetech front) and I have started doing track days. 
Unsprung weight is on my mind!

junior varsity

when you decide money is no object, please get the sicom carbon rotors (and let me borrow your bike on occasion)


done wheels yet?

Blue

Quote from: a m on February 09, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
when you decide money is no object, please get the sicom carbon rotors (and let me borrow your bike on occasion)
I hope you don't mind waiting a long time...
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done wheels yet?
No, not yet. 
I am a bit on the fence with the wheels.  I have the 25/17 axle combo.
I have looked at BST, Carrozzeria and Pierre's SS 5 spoke wheels for an upgrade, but I dunno.  A couple grand for wheels, a grand for brakes, a grand for forks/triples, half grand for a steering damper equals more money than a track bike would cost. :-\ 
But a track bike isn't my Monster... [moto]

junior varsity

that's my same thoughts re: the bike versus a separate track bike.

I've got the same wheel/axle combo as you (after some front end upgrades) - 25/17

if you do it a wheel at a time, you can fit any 748-916-996-998, late Monster or SS wheel - they are all 6-bolt, 25mm axle hole. then just find a 17mm axle hole rear.

Blue

Quote from: a m on February 09, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
that's my same thoughts re: the bike versus a separate track bike.

I've got the same wheel/axle combo as you (after some front end upgrades) - 25/17

if you do it a wheel at a time, you can fit any 748-916-996-998, late Monster or SS wheel - they are all 6-bolt, 25mm axle hole. then just find a 17mm axle hole rear.
Cool, that is an option for sure. 
Off to eBay for me!
Before I do, do you have or know where to find the weight differences between the original 3 spoke, newer 3 spoke (which I have) and 5 spoke wheels that came stock on Ducatis?