JHP Ducati 2V SBK 1088 cc (120 hp, 300lb)

[junior varsity]

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2011/02/jhp-racing-ducati-2-valve-superbike/


Sons of pregnant doges beat me to it by a longshot.  I want one bad.

The simplicity of a light air-cooled Superbike is a distant memory primarily due to emission and noises standards and our ever increasing desire for the level of performance that only liquid cooled motors can delivery. But what if you went back to basics and built an air-cooled Ducati racer with the power to weight ratio of 250GP bike? Well then you’d have a Ducati 1088RS.
JHP Racing and Ducati Coventry in the UK have created the Ducati Desmodue 1088RS as their interpretation of a modern and lightweight racing platform. With a dry weight of just 300lbs, the 120bhp, hot rodded 1100cc Desmodue engine produces provides the power to weight ratio of a 250cc GP racer.
Being an air-cooled racer, the Ducati 1088RS retains the elegance and simplicity of racebikes of yore. No unnecessary plumbing, less weight and prettier lines. Don’t you agree?
Ducati 1088RS Specifications

Engine: Race-Spec 1100 cc DS engine
Chassis: F042 with updated swing-arm
Weight: Sub 300 pounds (with oil/no gas)
Wheels: Magnesium Dymag 7-spoke
Transmission: Close-ratio gearbox
Other updates:
• Lightened or integrated sub-frames
• Working ram-air
• Rear cylinder cooling: Targeted air flow through air tunnels & body vents
• Lower exhaust and COG
• Improved engine cooling: large oil cooler (V-shaped Corse-type custom/fabricated to fit 1088 bodywork)
• Improved fuel delivery: 1098 fuel pump
• Modern electronics: Falcon Digital Dash/battery/wiring harness
• Expression of the structural frame
• Accent on curve and fluid form

From Ducati News Today

[zooom]

FCD partnership ( that owns this bike ) posted to our local club list the pics and specs of this bike a week or so ago and this has been a project in the making with Hackett ( who is a good personal friend of FCD) for a couple years with design as well as execution of this build and it will supposedly be shipped across the pond for to appear at the Ducati event being set up at Barber as well as a few shakedown trackdays with fellow club members...

[junior varsity]

I made the pictures bigger.

Things I like about it: The subframe and seat are one piece.
The pierobon frame looks awesome.

Things I'm curious about: I thought the supersport style rear suspension was inferior to the linkage suspension on the superbikes.

If you are going to blow the budget, and build something outlandish, I would think you would use Sicom rotors or something else outlandish - the calipers are updates (billet calipers, can't tell if they are the monoblocs or not), and even teh forks are gas charged, custom designed fairings, but just run of the mill Brembo HP rotors, like the ones sitting in the display cabinet at AMS for the average track nut.

And custom designed fairings... by Sharkskinz? Are they carbon, carbon kevlar, or just fiberglass (woven cloth they call it on the sharkskinz website). Cool to use a product from the USA, but the likes of CM Composit and may others are in JHP's backyard.


Enough 'criticism', because I give this a 9.5 on the "things I dig" scale.

[junior varsity]

In a very serious tone, and if somebody will read this that has the power to make it happen, hear me now, I would be interested in a kit form.


Say frame, subframe, swingarm, tank, and bodywork

[derby]

Say frame, subframe, swingarm, tank, and bodywork

i believe you can order the first four items directly from pierobon (or their us distributor, boulder motorsports).

[junior varsity]

I hadn't seen the subframe available before, and they mention that the swingarm is modified.

Suppose making the bodywork, such as the front fairing, as simple as using a 1098 style front fairing stay?

[The Don]

How many posts will we get before some num nut say it would better if it had a SSS

[junior varsity]

Looks like a variation on the multipart construction of the d16rr arm. I do wonder what the weight comparison between that and a mag corse style arm would be.

[stopintime]

Are you aware of the Kämna V2 Demon? 125kg/125bhp  

[zooom]

I emailed the owner of the bike and he'll chime in with some answers...

[Raux]

can anyone tell me what that spring/shock combo is under the front of the frame in one of those pictures?

[booger]

How does this differ from the Boulder Motorsports F042 2V Superbike?

 http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=46084.0

Looks like pretty much the same thing.

[thought]

that looks awesome

[junior varsity]

Are you aware of the Kämna V2 Demon? 125kg/125bhp 

Oh yes. It too is awesome.

can anyone tell me what that spring/shock combo is under the front of the frame in one of those pictures?

Supersport style Ohlins with piggyback reservoir, likely custom built (ohlins does that), and the forks are the Ohlins gas charged.

How does this differ from the Boulder Motorsports F042 2V Superbike?

 http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=46084.0

Looks like pretty much the same thing.

What? They share part of the frame, but this one has a modified frame, i believe a modified swingarm, 1088 cc instead of 1123 cc, 120 hp instead of 133 hp, different fairings, functional ram air, higher spec suspension while coming in at the same weight, integrated larger oil cooler into lower fairings like superbikes instead of mounted like a standard monster/hyper, low mount exhaust instead of high mount, different seat and subframe

so kind of a lot, actually.

[douglasf]

Hello all,
I'm Douglas Frederick of Frederick Cederna Design. Brian Z. was kind enough to let me know there were a few questions circulating with respect to the 1088. It has been a long while since I've posted on here, however Ann Cederna and I owe our roots to a Ducati Monster & 900 SS/SP that we drove all over the West.

We did have a budget to work with, and admittedly we don't have top spec components for all details. The goal was to provide a kit that others could scope up or scope down.

The fairings, seat & tank are entirely Frederick Cederna Design and were fabricated at Sharkskinz in Florida. The process took 5 months, but allowed us to develop and include improvements. We worked the shapes, shaved them down with Sharkskinz, went back to the drawing board, worked them some more, etc. The side fairings & seat are in fiber-glass at present. The next gen seat would be all carbon fiber. The tank is carbon kevlar fuel cel by FuelCel ETI. In the process, we made sure the tank was large enough to include a 1098 fuel pump. The tank buck was shaved down at Sharkskinz, and then sent to Dave at FuelCel for production. It was during this bodywork process that we cut the rear cylinder vents in the side fairings, lowered and placed the enlarged 'V' oil cooler, and created the air ducts and airbox. The entire rolling chassis and stock DS1000 engine was then packaged off to JHP Racing and John/Rick Hackett for their development and further design (read magic). While Ann & I (with inputs from Chris Edwards) evolved the bodywork and several improvements, the Hacketts must take the credit for the bike. I couldn't say it enough, JHP Racing brought top-notch engineering, experience, and innovation to this effort. We also exchanged regularly with the Hacketts for recommendations during the dev process.

Of the entire F042 kit, the only parts remaining are the frame. Nothing else is part of the original kit. The rear sub-frame is integrated within the seat (currently aluminum but to be replaced in CF), and the front sub-frame is carbon fiber (a derivative of the 998RS sub-frame). We decided in February 2010 that the swing-arm wasn't good enough and went back to Pierobon to provide an improved swing-arm. This added 8 months to the process. We new at the time that to also add a rising rate suspension would have incurred even longer development times.

We're working on a website (www.1088RS.com - note nothing posted yet) and hope to have something posted soon. We would like to offer a limited run of race or road versions (we wouldn't provide homogation or titles). When we launch the website, we'll include a poll/question page asking if people would be interested in the 1088. The kit would require a donor engine and could source many parts from a 1000DS. The level of spec could be done at the owner's preference. Thanks to the folks below for venturing your thoughts on this - we are very interested in knowing if there is interest or demand.

We look forward to hearing from you folks. I'm trying to include a few images below - if this doesn't work I'll give it another go.
Douglas Ann