JHP Ducati 2V SBK 1088 cc (120 hp, 300lb)

[junior varsity]

Awesome!

[Heath]

You need to host them somewhere before you can post them online.  Try the link below
FAQ: Positng pics

Bike looks great =)

[zooom]

Hello all,
I'm Douglas Frederick of Frederick Cederna Design. Brian Z. was kind enough to let me know there were a few questions circulating with respect to the 1088. It has been a long while since I've posted on here, however Ann Cederna and I owe our roots to a Ducati Monster & 900 SS/SP that we drove all over the West.

We did have a budget to work with, and admittedly we don't have top spec components for all details. The goal was to provide a kit that others could scope up or scope down.

The fairings, seat & tank are entirely Frederick Cederna Design and were fabricated at Sharkskinz in Florida. The process took 5 months, but allowed us to develop and include improvements. We worked the shapes, shaved them down with Sharkskinz, went back to the drawing board, worked them some more, etc. The side fairings & seat are in fiber-glass at present. The next gen seat would be all carbon fiber. The tank is carbon kevlar fuel cel by FuelCel ETI. In the process, we made sure the tank was large enough to include a 1098 fuel pump. The tank buck was shaved down at Sharkskinz, and then sent to Dave at FuelCel for production. It was during this bodywork process that we cut the rear cylinder vents in the side fairings, lowered and placed the enlarged 'V' oil cooler, and created the air ducts and airbox. The entire rolling chassis and stock DS1000 engine was then packaged off to JHP Racing and John/Rick Hackett for their development and further design (read magic). While Ann & I (with inputs from Chris Edwards) evolved the bodywork and several improvements, the Hacketts must take the credit for the bike. I couldn't say it enough, JHP Racing brought top-notch engineering, experience, and innovation to this effort. We also exchanged regularly with the Hacketts for recommendations during the dev process.

Of the entire F042 kit, the only parts remaining are the frame. Nothing else is part of the original kit. The rear sub-frame is integrated within the seat (currently aluminum but to be replaced in CF), and the front sub-frame is carbon fiber (a derivative of the 998RS sub-frame). We decided in February 2010 that the swing-arm wasn't good enough and went back to Pierobon to provide an improved swing-arm. This added 8 months to the process. We new at the time that to also add a rising rate suspension would have incurred even longer development times.

We're working on a website (www.1088RS.com - note nothing posted yet) and hope to have something posted soon. We would like to offer a limited run of race or road versions (we wouldn't provide homogation or titles). When we launch the website, we'll include a poll/question page asking if people would be interested in the 1088. The kit would require a donor engine and could source many parts from a 1000DS. The level of spec could be done at the owner's preference. Thanks to the folks below for venturing your thoughts on this - we are very interested in knowing if there is interest or demand.

We look forward to hearing from you folks. I'm trying to include a few images below - if this doesn't work I'll give it another go.
Douglas Ann

fixed it for ya Douglas!

and for everyone else, here's a link to the gallery that hosts some additional pics from the MCN Carol Nash show where the bike made its' debut...

http://www.mad-ducati.com/GalleryShowTN.php?GalleryId=788

[Raux]

If you look on this page there is a shock/spring under the front part of the frame
A M mentioned something, but I wasn't referring to the swingarm shock or fork.

http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php

[douglasf]

I understand what shock you are seeing now - thanks for the clarification. This is simply because the image cropping wasn't done well enough. Someone at JHP forgot to clip out a shock from a bike in the background. There is no shock on the front. I'll alert JHP.

[scduc]

In a very serious tone, and if somebody will read this that has the power to make it happen, hear me now, I would be interested in a kit form.


Say frame, subframe, swingarm, tank, and bodywork

Exactly what I'm thinking. Ive already got the 1k DS and could seriously consider this for a winter project next year.

[Billyzoom]

I would be extremely interested.  Extremely.

[Triple J]

I am also very interested! 

[junior varsity]

Seems to me that the parts kit 'must' contain:

Frame, Swingarm+axle+rear caliper mount, Rear Subframe/Tail, Front Subframe, Fairings & Air Runners, Airbox, and instruction as to which:
- triple clamp fits (748/749/848 style - non. adj head stems versus 916-996-998-999-1098-1198 adj. head stems) (so you can pick your triple clamps allowing for different offsets and fork diameters)
- Steering damper placement, length, or which bike's damper will also work (making it easy to source from a variety of aftermarket options)
- Shock length and ends, or as above, which bike has a similar part you could use
- Rear wheel style (999 or S4/M1000 or 696 width, axle, sprocket bolt pattern, disc carrier etc)

seems like that would about do it. leaving the person to pick the wheels, forks, brakes, motor, electronics, etc from any number of places or manufacturers leaving lots of options for customization and budgetary constraints.

[Monsterlover]

That. . .

so bad ass.

I wish Ducati would just bite it and start making killer 2v bikes.

I want that so bad, I'd push a homeless man into traffic for one.

[Raux]

I would like to know more about the exhaust system.

[CairnsDuc]

How many posts will we get before some num nut say it would better if it had a SSS

I'll put my hand up for that Duty!

I think it would look Better with a Singled Sided Swingarm! 

[thought]

I'll put my hand up for that Duty!

I think it would look Better with a Singled Sided Swingarm! 

thats because everything looks better with a SSS   haha

[junior varsity]

I think it would look Better with a Singled Sided Swingarm! 

If it were a braced design spec'd via FEA analysis and made of magnesium, sure. this beast is all about function first, hence working ram air

[douglasf]

Thank you for the support here for the 1088RS. It's very useful to note suggestions here about what the kit should include as this helps us with a point of departure. Would people be interested in sending their engines and required bits from a 1000DS to JHP, and having it returned to them completely assembled?

I also wanted to add a few words about Sharkskinz and ETI fuel Cel. Sharkskinz is a class act. The fit & finish of their bodywork was exemplary. While we often lean toward CF for it's strength or aesthetic, on bodywork fiber-glass is typically lighter. The Hacketts several times commented on the exceptional finish on Sharkskinz bodywork, and I'm right behind them. Additionally, Sharkskinz are great people and very customer conscious. We paid for Sharkskinz time on the project on a time & materials basis - i.e. they didn't sponsor this effort. We elected to include the Sharkskinz logo because of their exceptional contribution to the 1088, not because we were asked to. Sharkskinz is a great outfit, and ETI no less. I don't know of anyone that makes a better fuel cel than ETI. THe Europeans frequently use ETI tanks as well. We were remiss in not including the ETI logo but will revise. ETI knows their trade. Talk to them about angle of fuel delivery, depth of tank, internal clearances, tank foam, etc. See http://www.eti-fuelcel.com/

I wanted to respond to a question above about the exhaust. The entire exhaust is titanium and was developed by someone who plyed his trade learning racing exhausts (2-wheel & 4-wheel). The welds, radiuses, tube sizing, are exceptional and spot-on. Exhaust images are included below. This should give a view of the quality of the exhaust work. Let me know what you think - I would be interested to know.