Sprocket Selection - Material & Ratios

Started by junior varsity, February 19, 2011, 10:04:58 AM

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junior varsity

I could have sworn there was an existing thread on that, but I can't find it or my coffee today.

I'm walking out in the garage to take some long over-due pictures of various things. One such picture will be of my very well-worn rear sprocket, and I was going to kind of use it to show how two considerations should be made when choosing your sprockets:


1. Material - Aluminum wears like a mofo, steel is heavy

2. Odd # sprockets vs. Even # sprockets to reduce wear - As shown in the picture, the wear pattern on these sprockets is from a combination of even number tooth front sprocket AND even number tooth rear sprocket. (14/40).  Notice every other tooth is worn the heck off, and the others are fish hooked. I remember reading that  odd # front paired with odd # rear is supposed to be the best for wear, then odd/even or even/odd, and lastly the "even/even" combination.


[picture to be posted when i get back in from the garage]

Picture now posted:

stopintime

SuperSprox steel outer and aluminum inner [thumbsup]

I want to blame my 14/41 for the quick chain wear, but I think it's my riding [roll]
The Ducati steel sprockets have lasted two chains, or more...

Trying 15/44 next, but I'm not expecting much.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

booger

I put on a 43T aluminum quickchange and have about 10k on it. It's an AFAM and the aluminum is just now peeking out from under the hard ano, but no fish-hooking yet. Bike's a low-HP Monster and I clean the chain & sprox religiously, and never ride in the rain. I do ride hard. It's a pretty good sprocket. I'll just get another one when it wears out.
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jerryz

i have knackerd 2 Ducati steel sprockets in 17000 miles each one was 39 only lasted 7000 miles the 43 lasted 11,000 miles now fitted a Renthal Aluminium 43  much lighter so far 4000  miles no wear seen.

Howie

Once the hard anodizing wears through the wear happens very quickly.

koko64

Those alloy inner/steel outer sprockets seem like a good idea, but are expensive due to them being a two piece jobbie. If you hate the weight of steel they at least give some longevity.
I like the light AFAM front sprockets with lightening holes.
If I got the full alloy rear sprockets cheap enough I would use them though.

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I like to run the larger 15 on the front as I've raised the rear ride height, so I'm running 15/39 which is stock for an old M900 down here in Oz (the old belt 900 SS is 15/37 here). A tuned 900 engine pulls 15/39 quite well.
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Raux


lazylightnin717

I went with a Renthal rear in aluminum. I haven't heard much about the ratios and how they increase or decrease wear but I would like to know more about it. Nonetheless, I went with a 15/40


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koko64

Quote from: Raux on February 20, 2011, 08:20:07 AM


lightweight steel sprocket

Thanks for the picture Raux. They have really gone to town lightening that sprocket. A great compromise to longevity without the costly two piece manufacturing process. That could be the solution to my next rear sprocket choice.
2015 Scrambler 800

greenmonster

#9
Renthal alu rear, no excessive wear really, + 10 k km's.
15/41, no strange/uneven wear neither.


Even causes less wear than odd, is that really a fact?
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

junior varsity

Other way around. Odd causes less wear than even, or so I remember reading - sorry if I was unclear.


greenmonster

Any link or so?
Would be interesting to read more,
this is a new one f me.
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

junior varsity

I am searching for it - the topic dealt with inner v. outer links on the same sprocket teeth because of even numbers, even/even wearing worse than even/odd, odd/odd wearing the best.

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junior varsity

that's right! The name had escaped me. Before defunct VeeTwo had gotten rid of all their cool stuff, I had picked up a few sets of their lightweight primary gear kits, which also have the hunting tooth ratio. Tipped off to this from the Desmoquattro performance handbook by Falloon.