696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK

Started by 2-Skinny, February 23, 2011, 07:49:14 AM

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Buckethead

Quote from: DucatiTorrey on February 26, 2011, 07:47:20 AM
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I don't even have a new-gen monster, but I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

I'm all for using an active client base for R+D. As for sponsorship, hell, if it goes to market, or even a group buy, I'll throw $10 at the DMF coffers just because I like to hang out here.

I've wasted more money for less return before.  [beer]
Quote from: Jester on April 11, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
I can't wait until Marquez gets on his level and makes Jorge trip on his tampon string. 

2-Skinny

Appreciate the interest guys.  We have seen how others have mounted things up so we will try to get measurements and come up with a finalized design fairly quickly.  Definitely will keep updates posted.
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

DoWorkSon

UPDATE:

Today Ryan(2-skinny) and I tore down the bike, removed the airbox, and started to do a hands on mock-up of the bracket, designing it in CAD, and then double checking CAD with the actual parts and in the bike so everything is accurate...

Here is a pic of what it "should" look like when finally produced



The bracket is mounted to the mounting points of the original airbox..

Right now I am double checking and comfirming all of the parts and placement, which should be the longest and most tedious part of this project...

However, the price, If we are able to get at least 10 people into the group buy, can be under $50. This depends on the material used...If we go the stainless steel route or something higher end, prices go up obviously...

We still have to mount up the coils and a few other little things, which shouldn't be too hard. just need to find a spot to attach them.
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2009 M696--SOLD

Mhanis

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DoWorkSon



Update design. Changed the vertical bracket that would bolt to the battery tray. I did this for a few reasons.... Due to unknown thickness of material we will be using, the slightest change will throw off the bolt holes on bracket from lining up with the ones on the battery tray. Two, when everything is manufactured and all the bends are made, I think the dimensions also might be thrown off a bit. Opened up the center with several vertical/horizontal lines, so that when the battery tray is placed on the bracket, it can simply be zip tied to the bracket..... This was the easiest way I could see since I don't have an actual solid metal model to work with. Every time I thought I would get it right, I would adjust something and the alignment of these holes would be off.... So this is the sure fire way to make it work.

There is very little stress on the battery tray, its already bolted down at another point, and the battery is held in place by other means.... A few zip ties should easily secure everything in place and still allow a little flex when riding.

The arm looking bracket with the two prongs is for one of the electrical components, which I am not even sure what it is(starter)?... Maybe Raux or someone else can chime in. Basically, the component is surrounded by rubber and has two vertical slits on the rubber housing for it to be secured in place on the stock air box... These prongs slip through that rubber to secure it. Another zip tie and it should be good to go.



Still working out all the kinks.... But, it is almost done... Will update when I get some more done.
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2009 M696--SOLD

DucatiTorrey

looking promising assuming all fits. what if i cant get in on the initial order? screwed? waiting on more options for actual pods
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mattc7

Quote from: DucatiTorrey on February 27, 2011, 07:30:47 PM
looking promising assuming all fits. what if i cant get in on the initial order? screwed? waiting on more options for actual pods

There probably will not be more options for pods

you have 3.5 quality options for them to choose from.

TPO Beast
TPO Beast-R
DucShop


and the .5 goes to Waspworks, because they make them, but don't sell them

Also: suggestion, dedicated mounting point for PCV, since it will be required (not really required but highly beneficial) to adequately tune for the intake changes.  -- maybe this fits well opposed the battery.  I don't know offhand how everything fits in there once the box is gone, so just making sure that it's been brought up

DoWorkSon

Quote from: DucatiTorrey on February 27, 2011, 07:30:47 PM
looking promising assuming all fits. what if i cant get in on the initial order? screwed? waiting on more options for actual pods

Haven't set up anything for the initial order so your in luck. Still have to get a headcount of how many people would want them and then I would try to set up some type of escrow account for everyone who wants in on it.

I ordered the Ducshop pods. Their company was helpful when I spoke to them, and they have a "complete" kit.... Filters, stacks, PCV filters, and crankcase filters... Their stacks look almost identical to TPO, but I just like how they had the complete kit, rather than ordering individual items. Hopefully these will be in by next weekend and I can install and get some pics...

I think the PCV can be mounted to the vertical bracket. The slots in it allow for multiple items to be attached via bolts/washer/screws or zip ties. I am going to run all the tubing and attach to that.

Opening up the airbox opens a lot of options and provides a ton of space for mounting and attaching items.

Each bike is different so that will also take part in the installation. Some people have done the charcoal canister delete, some have not. People have moved things around, or installed different items.

However, a little ingenuity and elbow grease will get this project finished up.
2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

2-Skinny

I will check the diameter of the stacks when they are installed, but a little Google research may turn up some other "universal" filter options.  As long as the mouth diameter is correct for whatever application you choose to run, then they will work.

There may also be room under the ECU mounting point to attach the PC which may work depending on how you install it.

With the airbox gone, it also leaves it up to the end user to sort out some of the vent tubing.  There is at least one or two crankcase/ engine vents that fed into the airbox which can either be shortened and a small filter added or a one way valve added and a length of hose added to vent to atmosphere.

One of the cool things, like DoWorkSon (Brian) said, is that with all of the airbox parts removed there is alot of space opened up and plenty of DIY options for mounting points and accommodating various brands of intake, tuning, etc.
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

ungeheuer

Quote from: DoWorkSon on February 27, 2011, 07:04:56 PMThe arm looking bracket with the two prongs is for one of the electrical components, which I am not even sure what it is(starter)?... Maybe Raux or someone else can chime in. Basically, the component is surrounded by rubber and has two vertical slits on the rubber housing for it to be secured in place on the stock air box... These prongs slip through that rubber to secure it. Another zip tie and it should be good to go.
Yup, that electrical component is the starter solenoid.
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2-Skinny

I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

DoWorkSon

Quick update....

Just getting price/time quotes from local shops... Once we get prices we will let all of you interested folks know
2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

DoWorkSon

The Ducshop hyperstacks came in today... Here is a quick shot of the kit, them installed, and them installed with the tank on(Just to make sure they aren't too big and there is enough room....

Tomorrow I will be mocking up a sheet metal model of bracket and hopefully can have a rough model that will actually be installed on the bike...

Still looking for a local shop to make the brackets... Getting price quotes and the fabrication stuff worked out.....

The kit.. Stacks, filter, PCV filter, and crankcase filter


Installed stacks


Tank on
2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

Veloce-Fino

Count me IN let me know when you want my $.

I'm loving this shit.


Please save me some time and create a parts list with PN's for the stack filters, pvc filter and crankcase breather filter.

Is this thing on?

Mhanis

I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat.

Pete Townshend

2009 M1100 72,000+ miles- and climbing
2015 Suzuki TU250X 13,000+ miles GONE!