Should I trade my S2R800 for a Sport 1000?

[FireInTheHole]

Yeah, I just got my S2R 800 a little while back but I've had a thing for the Sport Classics since they came out.  What should I know about the 06 year of the Sport 1000?  I did a little research but have no experience with them.  Think I'll enjoy the 1000DS more than the 800?  Is it still possible to get that crazy looking Zard set-up for these (if so how much and where)? 

Anyhow, just trying to get a little feedback to help make a decision.

Thanks in advance.

[Speeddog]

IMO, you need a test-ride.

[tbird245]

The Sport 1000 is an amazing bike. One of my faves. The only real downside for me is ergos. Very extreme riding position. Not bad for an hour or so, but can get painful after that. You can get ST3 bar risers to fix that though. The new Sport Biposto comes with the risers, and has the pipes on both sides instead of one, and dual shocks.

[eviltwin]

Is it still possible to get that crazy looking Zard set-up for these (if so how much and where)? 

You mean this one?  Motowheels carries them or you can order directly from their US distributer www.zardamerica.com. 

[FireInTheHole]

SpeedDog - Yeah, I've been on one for a couple moments but not enough to seal the deal.  I'm mostly going from a style and sound feel here.  This is why I was wondering what people would have to say about the engine compared to the S2R 800.  Then there's the dry clutch thing 

TBird - yeah, I'd probably raise the riding position a bit.  Really the only thing that I didn't like about them was the extreme position.

eVilTWIN - yes, those...seriously, tell me those don't look like works of art.  Thank you.


That's the other thing...are people having issues with the single sided rear suspension?

[m1moto]

The ergos is the only downside. I would love to have one as a second bike.

[Speeddog]

Keep in mind that there is the valve guide issue with the 1000 motors.
Most of the ones I've had in the shop either needed them fixed or would need them shortly.

Other than that, the 1000 is a really nice motor.

[FireInTheHole]

Keep in mind that there is the valve guide issue with the 1000 motors.

I assume this is a one-time fix thing?  You don't see it slipping back constantly, do you?

[Slide Panda]

Down Sides:
An other ding agaist the ergos.
I got a short test ride on the mono version and in that short time my shoulder was killing me.  And I was used to a pretty low position since I sported vortex clips on my Monster. 

Heavy wheels too.  The boys at Web Bike World hucked the spokes for some Carrozzeria forged and lost 23 pounds
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-wheels/carrozzeria-wheels/

That Zard system is costy

Up Sides:
Bello!  Man it is a great looking machine

That Zard system sounds just vicious.  Not quite like anything I've heard on any other bike. 

[IZ]

Rode a couple times.  Very aggresive.  Nothing risers can't solve!  In fact, they just had that orange Sport 1K in Ducati Seattle a few weeks ago.  I can't remember what company di the work on it though?  I talked to the Rep.  I'll post a pic later.  What a gorgeous looking bike!!  The ZARD pipes are SWEET!!  

[Buckethead]

I've only had mine, an '06, for a bit more than a month, but the single shock seems to be holding up nicely. Even after I put it in the ditch. 

I've got the riser clipons and while it can be hard on your wrists after a while, at any reasonable speed (60+) you'll probably be leaning into the wind enough that it shouldn't be an issue.

Er... what I meant to say was that I rely solely on my core muscles.

Seriously, tho, in the 6 weeks or so I've had mine I've clocked over 2500 miles. Last Sunday I did a loop of about 200 miles. The only real problem I had was towards the end my legs started to cramp up from being bunched up under me for so long. Stretched for a bit when I gassed up and it wasn't a problem anymore. I'm also 6'1, so YMMV.

I can't really say one way or another on the power issue. This is my second bike. First was an '03 620 and I haven't had any experience with the 800 mill. I can say from experience that it'll power-wheelie in first. I weigh about 250 all geared up, so that's no mean feat. Haven't gotten the front wheel up in 2nd, but I don't tend to hang out in that section of the power band much.

If you can get past the ergos, do it. You'll likely never see another one on the road, and you'll still be in lust with it for a loooooong time. 

[somegirl]

How about the GT1000?  It's got a better riding position.

[Speeddog]

The ones we fixed were done by a local cylinder head shop, using well-proven components.
None of those have come back yet, so I can't say it fixed it completely.

I have no idea if the warranty-fixed ones have improved guides or not.
From what I've heard, some folks step up to aftermarket guides on the warranty fixes.

Perhaps ducvet would have some FHE that would be informative.

IMO, part of the issue is that it's a 7mm stem on a pretty large valve.
I've seen quite a few broken half-rings as well, whether that's been due to the loose guides or not, I don't know.
I don't know how hard the owners ride their bikes, either.
Lots of high-rpm running is harder on 'em, I see more broken half-rings on 620's, as they tend to get revved harder than the bigger motors.

[IZ]

How about the GT1000?  It's got a better riding position.

Check out Detrich's in the AZ section for pics of his GT.  That's a sweet looking ride! 

IT's comfy..yes..but ..very scooter like feel to it when riding. 

[Duc L'Smart]

Yeah, I just got my S2R 800 a little while back but I've had a thing for the Sport Classics since they came out.  What should I know about the 06 year of the Sport 1000?  I did a little research but have no experience with them.  Think I'll enjoy the 1000DS more than the 800?

Yep
A good portion of what we like about our bikes is style.
I'm much more comfortable on the PS than a Monster (I had a S2R800, & an M620), it's a lot more fun to ride, & it doesn't look like every other bike on the street.
They changed the Sport Classics quite a bit in '07. The '06s are monoposto, & have a dry clutch.
I've tracked my PS 4 days, & have done many 350+mile days...
Anything else?