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The Ruins of Detroit

Started by DucatiTorrey, February 26, 2011, 09:20:52 AM

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ducpainter

#30
February 27, 2011, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Jerry Attrick on February 27, 2011, 04:43:26 PM
Not sure the money even exists for demolition & redevelopment right now.
There's some greedy developer that's waiting to buy the land for pennies on the dollar...

no shortage of greed in our society.
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Randimus Maximus

#31
February 27, 2011, 04:47:10 PM
unless they can find a developer to renovate/rehabilitate/remodel the structure into a useful facility again, which is what happened with the Book-Cadillac Hotel in Detroit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_Cadillac_Hotel

There have been efforts to do the same with the Michigan Central Station building, although money and a use remain an issue.

Randimus Maximus

#32
February 27, 2011, 04:51:27 PM
in some cases, the owners of the buildings aren't able to be found.

as such, legal battles ensue over use/demolition rights which is the case with the Packard Plant:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/10/detroit-still-hunting-for-packard-plant-owner/

Bick

#33
February 27, 2011, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 27, 2011, 04:47:04 PM
There's some greedy developer that's waiting to buy the land for pennies on the dollar...

no shortage of greed in our society.

Gordon Gekko "Greed is Good" o/
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#34
February 27, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
the money will come will come from the private sector...... pennies on the dollar is not greed.... thats just selling high and buy'n low.

is there not a deal kings  thread?
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#35
February 27, 2011, 06:21:01 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on February 27, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
thats just selling high and buy'n low.

Sounds like Bakersfield.
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#36
February 27, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
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Vindingo

#37
February 27, 2011, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: badgalbetty on February 27, 2011, 01:48:01 PM
The pyramids serve no purpose really other than millions of people flock to them annually. Should they be knocked down as well? I am guessing the answer is no. At some point I hope these building find a new lease on life.
BGB

To draw a parallel between he pyramids and any of these buildings is quite a stretch.   The pyramids 4500 years old, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world to deny their cultural and architectural significance.  These buildings look like ruins after at most, 50 years of neglect.  They are not constructed to last 4500 years nor are they really that architecturally significant.  I guess that is something we will have to disagree apon. 

They make for cool photographs, but the nostalgia escapes me when thinking about renovtions in a pragmatic way.  Detroit obviously feels the same way... cash money talks

Speedbag

#38
February 28, 2011, 09:07:13 AM
I just want a creepy old sanatorium.
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B.Rock

#39
February 28, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
I haven't visited but I'm fascinated by the truly amazing Gilded Age architecture and yet just how far Detroit has fallen. I'd be surprised if it truly redevelops though, there's no demand. Half the population is gone, and almost 30% of residential lots are vacant. IIRC Detroit has gone from the second highest median income (in major cities) in the US in the early 1900s to dead last.
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Stinky Wizzleteats

#40
February 28, 2011, 03:41:04 PM
Looks exactly like that documentary "Life After People".  :-\
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#41
March 04, 2011, 06:17:33 AM
when I first came to America in 1981 I went to Camden NJ on a ship. That was a reasonably scary place, however I was fascinated by it. I had never seen anything like it and one perception of America we had was that of everyone working,life is good and the complete oppulence. Then I went to Camden. I grew up in a very nice middle class part of London in a small area that has a thousand year history..... Seeing Camden and then going into Philly shocked the hell out of me. However I can appreciate old buildings and find that they are architecturally important.. They are a part of OUR nations history and they did serve a purpose. I prefer to restore no matter the cost as it is part of our heritage.That is of course my own view and seeing as America for the most part is a young country with very few old buildings, I believe to preserve buildings for future generations is culturally important. At the end of the day though, money is money and he who has the gold makes the rules.
If I won the lottery I would completely waste it doing things like restoring these buildings and putting men to work.
Anyone remember Montgomary Ward Dept store that was?
Their old corporate office was in Portland Oregon and was due to be demo'd. It was saved and converted and fixed up. It is know housing several firms and hundreds of people have their work there. It was a good choice to save that building. It is now called Montgomery Park Corporate Center.
I see a value in old things, maybe becuase of my age or experience in life I am not sure, but to lose the past is a sure way for the future to fail.
Just my 02
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iDuc

#42
March 04, 2011, 07:14:05 AM
Every time I look at the first pic in this thread, I expect to see zombies in Nazi uniforms!  Maybe turn the building into a theme park/laser tag arena  ;D
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B.Rock

#43
March 04, 2011, 10:16:41 AM
BGB, if you're interested in Camden, there's a website where this guy has been shooting photos from the same locations for years to document how they change. He's got Richmond, CA and Harlem in there too but Camden's is by far the best.
http://invinciblecities.camden.rutgers.edu/intro.html
Fascinating stuff.
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pennyrobber

#44
March 04, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 27, 2011, 01:27:53 PM


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