Wheel weights - not the kind for balancing....Now adding Tire weights

Started by Speeddog, March 08, 2011, 02:00:23 PM

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Speeddog

Ended up with a good selection of wheels in my paws all at the same time.
All either bent, broken, FUBAR or absolutely not for sale.

All wheels naked except for bearings and spacers, rear wheels have cush drive inserts too.

All weighed with the same scale, except as noted (*) & (#).


FRONTS, all 3.50x17

GT1000, 3.50 Union Cycle Steel rim, 36 spokes : 14 lb 1 oz

Sport Classic, 3.50 Excel Aluminum rim, 36 spokes : 11 lb 15 oz, 11 lb 10 oz
Fat 3-spoke OEM : 11 lb 11 oz
Skinny 3-spoke OEM : one at 11 lb 1 oz, one at 11 lb 11 oz one at 10 lb 3 oz
Cast Aluminum Panigale 1198 Enkei 10-spoke : 9 lb 6 oz
Cast Aluminum OEM 5-spoke : 8 lb 15 oz
Cast(?) Aluminum 10-spoke Hypermotard Marchesini OEM 8 lb 14 oz
KTM Duke 690 5x2 'star' wheel looks cast   8 lb 8 oz
Forged Aluminum Marchesini 10 spoke (5 Y) 8 lb 2 oz < thx Scoober>
Forged Aluminum Marchesini 10 spoke (5 Y) 7 lb 11 oz
Cast Magnesium HRC  3.00x17 6-spoke 7 lb 10 oz
Billet (?) Performance Machine 6-spoke 7 lb 5 oz
Forged Aluminum O-Z 5-spoke : 6 lb 15 oz
Cast Magnesium Marchesini 5-spoke : 7 lb 1 oz, 6 lb 10 oz (*), 6 lb 8 oz
Cast Magnesium Marvic 5-spoke : 6 lb 6 oz
Forged Aluminum Marchesini 10 spoke (5 Y) 2 of 6 lb 3 oz, 6 lb 12 oz 2x
Cast Magnesium Marvic 5-spoke : 6 lb even (includes ding and crack :'( )
BST 7-spoke for Panigale : 5 lb 14 oz


REARS, all 5.50x17 unless otherwise noted

DSS
GT1000, 5.50 Union Cycle Steel rim, 36 spokes : 22 lb 0 oz (estimated until i can get a weight for a 180/55-17 Pirelli Angel)
959 Pani 5x2 spoke Aluminum : 17lb 13oz
Sport Classic, 5.50 Excel Aluminum rim, 36 spokes : 17 lb 3 oz, 17 lb 5 oz
Fat 3-spoke OEM : 16 lb 13 oz
5-Y Spoke 749 OEM : 16 lb 4 oz
3-Spoke skinny :
Bimota DB2 cast aluminum 3-spoke : 15 lb 12 oz
Cast Aluminum OEM 5-spoke : 15lb 7 oz. 15 lb 3 oz
Forged Aluminum O-Z 5-spoke : 12 lb 8 oz (no cush drives though...)
Cast Magnesium Marchesini 5-spoke : 9 lb 11 oz (10 lb with cush drives)
Billet (?) Performance Machine 6-spoke : 9 lb 5 oz
Cast Magnesium Marvic 5-spoke : 8 lb 13 oz

SSS

OEM Cast Aluminum 5-spoke (S2R) 12 lb 8 oz
Cast aluminum 10-spoke Enkei M1100 Evo 11 lb 2 oz
6.00" Cast Aluminum 10-spoke Enkei from 1198 10 lb 11 oz
Forged Aluminum 10-spoke Marchesini  10 lb 4 oz
Cast(?) Aluminum 10-spoke Hypermotard Marchesini OEM 9 lb 6 oz
Forged Aluminum Marchesini 10 spoke (5 Y) 8 lb 14 oz < thx Scoober>
6.00" Marchesini Cast Magnesium 5 spoke 8lb 4 oz, 9 lb 2 oz
6.00" Marchesini forged aluminum "3x9" spoke Panigale-S OEM 7 lb 14 oz
Forged Aluminum 10-spoke Hypermotard-S Marchesini OEM 7 lb 6 oz, 7 lb  9 oz
6.00" Marchesini forged aluminum 10-spoke fully machined 7 lb 3 oz, 7 lb 12 oz
5.50" HRC cast magnesium for RC-30 7 lb 2 oz
6.00" BST 7-spoke for Panigale : 6 lb 5 oz

REARS, all 4.50x17

DSS
Skinny 3-spoke OEM : 14 lb 1 oz

REARS, all 5.00x17

DSS
KTM Duke 690 5x2 'star' wheel looks cast  12 lb 10 oz
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(#) = Weighed by Strati many moons ago, not sure how 'naked' they were, rear seems heavy)
(*) = Weighed several years ago on a ~$3k scale
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Edited and updated periodically as I get my hands on naked wheels

Tires:

Pirelli Diablo Rosso II - 190/55-17 - 14 lb 8 oz
Pirelli Angel GT - 180/55-17 - 14 lb 1 oz
Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsa SP V2 - 190/55-17 - 13 lb 0 oz
Pirelli Diablo 'Supersport' - 180/55-17 - 13 lb 0 oz
Metzeler Roadtec Z6 160/60-17 - 12 lb 4 oz

Pirelli Diablo 'Supersport' - 120/70-17 - 10 lb 0 oz
Dunlop Roadsmart III - 120/70-17 - 9 lb 15 oz
Metzeler Roadtec Z6 120/70-17 - 9lb 12 oz
Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsa SP V2 - 120/70-17 - 9 lb 4 oz

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#1
SWEEET!

Naked obviously means no rotors or bolts, no speedo drive ring, and I assume no tires... yah? all with valve stems though, yah?  :)


Also, you can add BST 5-spoke 6.0" rear, small hub SSS, and BST 748-998 5-spoke 3.5"x17" front to the list of weights, and I will weigh them next tire change (not like unmounting and remounting rotors is difficult!).   I should hopefully also have comparison weights for a 5.5/5.75/6.0" x 17" BST 5-spoke DSS rear (M900) and 1098/1198/SF 7-spoke or 749/999/S4RS 5-spoke BST 3.5"x17" front wheel (both being 5-rotor bolt style wheels) by the end of this year. (If I can quit killing my budget with doodads  [bang] ).

Speeddog

Some with stems, some without...I think the difference is minor but I'll check it and tweak the numbers if needed,

No rotors, no bolts, no speedo drive parts.

Need to get cush drives for the OZ, so I'll factor those in when I've got 'em.
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I know all the non-cast iron brembo 3 spokes seem to come with alu valve stems, so the difference would indeed be very negligible.

ducpainter

Quote from: a m on March 08, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
I know all the non-cast iron brembo 3 spokes seem to come with alu valve stems, so the difference would indeed be very negligible.
When did Brembo start making cast iron wheels? [evil]
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junior varsity

i recall its what the take-off from my bike is made of everytime i pick it up to place it against the side garage door so I can have a cross-breeze. (Doesn't help that old rotors are still adorning it either)

Düb Lüv

i have some OZ wheel weights for a DSS 25mm/17mm axle. they're at home though.
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junior varsity

yeah, post those up for sure - just get 'em? [post pics! i am still very interested in those wheels for the fixer-upper M900, and maybe as a real wheel for my M900!]

Düb Lüv

a little heads up. after putting the OZ's on, the bike will lift in mid powerband.  [thumbsup]
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DucatiBastard

I'll play...

Forged Alu Marchesini 10 spokes (V-spokes) from a Hyper S:
    Front- 6 lb 14 oz
    Rear- 7 lb 9 oz

These are without tires, rotors, spacers, bolts, but WITH stems

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Düb Lüv

#10
5 spoke OZ wheels for a DSS 25mm/17mm


rim weights w/o tires, with bearings, and no axles. yes with aluminum valve stems  [roll]

front 7lbs 4oz
rear 11lbs 14oz w/cush drive, sprocket carrier and steel sprocket hardware.

this is the only current pic i have A M. i know you really can't see them.





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junior varsity

LOOKS GREAT! (fyi - next belt change you can pull the belt cover 'backs' off of the heads to make it even more naked... requires removing the pulleys iirc, so a good opportunity to swap in some lightweight pulleys at the same time giving you the opportunity to degree those things)

Düb Lüv

Quote from: a m on March 09, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
LOOKS GREAT! (fyi - next belt change you can pull the belt cover 'backs' off of the heads to make it even more naked... requires removing the pulleys iirc, so a good opportunity to swap in some lightweight pulleys at the same time giving you the opportunity to degree those things)

Already 2 steps ahead of ya. Lw pulleys and all.
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