Taxes

Started by Speedbag, March 08, 2011, 02:53:00 PM

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herm

Quote from: mitt on March 08, 2011, 06:41:38 PM

While I was complaining about taxes years ago, an old friend of mine said it is always better to be on the paying end than the receiving end.   I think that still holds true.


mitt

and this should have ended the discussion...
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

sbrguy

i shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all, i employ every single one of you in the service or product industry.

the only reason you have a job is because i spend my hard earned money on your service and products, if anyone should be paying taxes its businesses as i have already paid my fair share and essentially employed all of you.   [laugh]

hbliam

Quote from: sbrguy on March 08, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
i shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all, i employ every single one of you in the service or product industry.

the only reason you have a job is because i spend my hard earned money on your service and products, if anyone should be paying taxes its businesses as i have already paid my fair share and essentially employed all of you.   [laugh]

Kind of like the guy on the street that tells me he pays my salary [leo]...here's your nickel back.

Speedbag

I always strive to break even or at least be close (by wild-ass estimation). Sometimes I get a piddling back, sometimes I pay a couple hundred. Thought that would be the case again this year, until I got the official verdict. $1100 isn't much, but it is when you weren't planning for it. Sort of like an unexpected car repair.  :P
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Howie

Quote from: hbliam on March 08, 2011, 09:20:40 PM
Kind of like the guy on the street that tells me he pays my salary [leo]...here's your nickel back.

By that logic, since your salary is paid by the pay taxes and you pay taxes you are self employed :P

sbrguy

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Quote from: hbliam on March 08, 2011, 09:20:40 PM
Kind of like the guy on the street that tells me he pays my salary [leo]...here's your nickel back.

exactly. and i think you short changed me, i want the full $1.00 back not the nickle.   [laugh]

besides the amount of money that i have spent in a ducati dealership and the gas staions was more than enough to employ all the workers at both..  [laugh]

RAT900

Wife and I pre-pay estimated taxes each quarter and sometimes still get to pay taxes when we file.

I don't mind the tax bite out of the paycheck....I don't even regard that as my "income"...

its just a bunch of numbers on a piece of paper....

what I actually make is the part I can save or spend...the rest is imaginary numbers

I just hate pre-paying...if they want more money just take it out automatically
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Bladecutter

Quote from: hbliam on March 08, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
Refund just means you gave the Feds a zero interest loan.

Sorry, its not an interest free loan.

My tax money goes to paying for roads to be repaired, parks to be built, bridges to be maintained, firefighters to protect my house and save my life in an emergency, cops to keep crooks far away from me, and air traffic controllers to keep planes from crashing into each other, and then down on top of my head while I sleep in my bed.

I would much rather them use my money to pay for all of that, and then send me a check in February, instead of telling me next year that they are doubling the tax rate because they have no money in the coffers anymore because everyone in the US set their deductions to 6.

I think for giving the gov't the amount of tax money that I do, I get a pretty good amount of services in return, and have no complaints.

BC.

hbliam

Quote from: Bladecutter on March 09, 2011, 11:54:09 AM
Sorry, its not an interest free loan.

My tax money goes to paying for roads to be repaired, parks to be built, bridges to be maintained, firefighters to protect my house and save my life in an emergency, cops to keep crooks far away from me, and air traffic controllers to keep planes from crashing into each other, and then down on top of my head while I sleep in my bed.

I would much rather them use my money to pay for all of that, and then send me a check in February, instead of telling me next year that they are doubling the tax rate because they have no money in the coffers anymore because everyone in the US set their deductions to 6.

I think for giving the gov't the amount of tax money that I do, I get a pretty good amount of services in return, and have no complaints.

BC.

I wasn't complaining. And yes, it is an interest free loan. Your lists of services doesn't change the fact that if you overpay you are giving the govt. a free loan. They don't need your return to run the govt., you overpaid, that's why it's a refund. What rate people set for deductions has no direct ramification on YOUR tax burden, just theirs.

derby

Quote from: hbliam on March 09, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
What rate people set for deductions has no direct ramification on YOUR tax burden, just theirs.

it doesn't even change their tax burden... whether they claim 0 or 6, they're still going to have paid the same amount of taxes when the time comes.
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Monster Dave

...just goes to show that all of the 0% loans offered by the millions of tax payers still can't resolve the gov't debt problem.  [roll]

hbliam

Quote from: derby on March 09, 2011, 12:28:19 PM
it doesn't even change their tax burden... whether they claim 0 or 6, they're still going to have paid the same amount of taxes when the time comes.

True

ungeheuer

Quote from: hbliam on March 08, 2011, 09:20:40 PMKind of like the guy on the street that tells me he pays my salary [leo]
Not kind of like.  Its the actual fact.  We work to profitably produce goods and services from which the government syphons the cash to fill the Public Purse, out of which We the Guys On The Street pay for your Public Service  :-*.

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derby

Quote from: Statler on March 09, 2011, 05:37:27 PM
this one is just about done, agreed?

no no no... i think it's got a few more snarky comments and some veiled insults left in it.
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