Frame Sliders for low-speed / drop protection?

Z06C5R · March 09, 2011, 09:52:57 AM

Title pretty much says it. I've been reading around and found some claims that at low / no speed, the force of the impact on the slider can cause frame or motor damage. I'm new to riding this season, so I'm trying to plan ahead for the inevitable low-speed parking-lot type drop - I was planning on doing some Speedy frame sliders to minimize damages, but now I'm having second thoughts...

Raux · March 09, 2011, 09:56:57 AM

if you use the search for frame sliders, you'll find lots of testimonials.

Jarvicious · March 09, 2011, 01:31:01 PM

A low speed drop damaging a thick gauge steel rod that connects the heavy duty trellis steel frame and one of the beefier parts of the motor? I doubt you'll do any damage.

badgalbetty · March 09, 2011, 02:01:39 PM

should be the first thing you put on your bike.Do that before you rip off the fork reflectors.

jhsS2R · March 09, 2011, 04:04:27 PM

Quote from: Z06C5R on March 09, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
Title pretty much says it. I've been reading around and found some claims that at low / no speed, the force of the impact on the slider can cause frame or motor damage. I'm new to riding this season, so I'm trying to plan ahead for the inevitable low-speed parking-lot type drop - I was planning on doing some Speedy frame sliders to minimize damages, but now I'm having second thoughts...

FYI, I was just told the exact same thing by a parts dealer yesterday. Said he'd be happy to sell me any of the sliders he carried (Speedymoto and Rizoma I think) and they were certainly not cheap, but told me to think about it because on a naked bike they could do more damage than good (i.e. not really much fairing to protect).

I was always of the opinion that sliders were a GOOD thing, but now I don't know what to think.

zooom · March 09, 2011, 04:40:13 PM

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Bishamon · March 10, 2011, 06:49:44 AM

I believe in a low-speed drop or a high speed incident on a track, they would prevent damage. On the other hand, if you had a high speed crash on the street, and the bike slid towards a curb, and the frame slider hit the curb, the engine mount point could crack (it has happened). I put sliders on my Sport 1000, and plan on adding them to my M796 this spring, primarily to prevent damage if the bike falls over. If I am in an accident on the street that is severe enough to crack the engine case, I'm sure I will have other problems of greater concern.

bdub · March 12, 2011, 04:19:10 PM

I had CC sliders on my 2000 900 when I dropped it at 8 miles an hour. Slider caught the road and flipped my bike. That bent the frame. Before that I dropped it at a stop sign with no damage. Frame slider worked. I currently have speedymotos on my bike. I like them but think the Cycle cats look better. I want fork sliders but don't really think they will help. Put them on. Worse thing that can happen is they will flip your bike and bend the frame.

BCMonster · March 12, 2011, 04:53:45 PM

Just ordered these for my 1100. $100.00 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-M696-M1100-2009-2010-Carbon-Frame-Slider-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f8f6ab04QQitemZ300529658628QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Kopfjager · March 13, 2011, 12:16:10 AM

No frame sliders for me, thanks.

scduc · March 13, 2011, 02:22:21 PM

Quote from: BCMonster on March 12, 2011, 04:53:45 PM
Just ordered these for my 1100. $100.00 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-M696-M1100-2009-2010-Carbon-Frame-Slider-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f8f6ab04QQitemZ300529658628QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Wow, that is expensive. I just bought a set of T-Rex for my S2R and with shipping, $50.

He Man · March 13, 2011, 03:07:43 PM

big fan of motovation and Cycle cat IMS sliders. i have CC IMS on my bike. $85.

bikepilot · March 13, 2011, 04:22:14 PM

I'm new to ducatis, but I have seen frame sliders crack cases and frames on other bikes. I've also seen them hold up and prevent a whole lot of damage. Most of the ones I've seen that caused rather than prevented damage either bolted directly to the engine rather than engine/frame or had a bracket to offset them so that you don't have to drill a big hole in a faired bike.

The monster I just bought came with speedymoto sliders. They appear to be well designed and of good quality - I'll be leaving them on there.

xcaptainxbloodx · March 13, 2011, 05:19:38 PM

the delrin used in all quality frame sliders is softer than the metal. Designed to grind away in an accident, it also has some aspect of shock absorption. If you are hitting frame sliders hard enough to damage your frame or engine, then your hitting the ground hard enough to total the bike regardless.

In my personal experience, frame sliders completely prevented damage to the tank/seat in my 5 or so dumbass drops (with only negligible scrapes to the case cover/footpegs/levers) and in my ~50mph highside I would say they are the SOLE reason my bike wasn't totaled.

The only downside ive ever seen with frame sliders is the rare instance that they catch on something and flip the bike, the only time Ive ever heard of this happening is with the ones that are aluminum studs surrounded with delrin (get FULL delrin). I think your parts guy just wanted you to be aware that frame sliders are not a magical forcefield of total protection.

I will use Frame sliders on every bike I ever own. In fact, I just mounted a set on my fiancÃ©'s Triumph last week.

BCMonster · March 13, 2011, 08:47:21 PM

Quote from: scduc on March 13, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Wow, that is expensive. I just bought a set of T-Rex for my S2R and with shipping, $50.

T Rex for the 1100 are inexpensive as well. I think they were only about $65.00 plus shipping, so sbout $80.00. For $20.00 more I like the look of the carbon ones.

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Frame Sliders for low-speed / drop protection?

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