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Started by Monster Dave, March 24, 2011, 06:09:04 PM

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Monster Dave

March 24, 2011, 06:09:04 PM Last Edit: March 24, 2011, 06:53:57 PM by Monster Dave
...Says the air traffic controler who fell asleep on the job at Ronald Regan Airport in DC and let 2 planes land on their own...   [bang]


http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/03/24/dc.air.traffic.suspension/index.html?hpt=Sbin


You think they'll change the airport code from DCA to DIY?   [laugh]

RAT900

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March 24, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
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AJ

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March 24, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 24, 2011, 06:09:04 PM
... Ronald Regan Airport in DC
NATIONAL airport, please!

There's plenty of room on the National Mall, the late-night arrivals should just land there.

Seriously though, I'm appalled, the runway is on a river, in the middle of a high density area, not to mention the nation's capital. 
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wbeck257

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March 25, 2011, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: AJ on March 24, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
NATIONAL airport, please!

There's plenty of room on the National Mall, the late-night arrivals should just land there.

Seriously though, I'm appalled, the runway is on a river, in the middle of a high density area, not to mention the nation's capital. 
[bang]

and pilots land planes all day and night long w/o the help of a tower. it is a basic skill.
what happened is bad, but the traffic at that time of night isn't. if the pilot didn't think it was safe to land there w/o contact with the tower, he wouldn't of done it.
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Bick

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March 25, 2011, 07:38:43 AM
It doesn't matter how little traffic there is at that time.

He is paid to be there, doing his job, awake and alert.

Fire him. 
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Monster Dave

#5
March 25, 2011, 07:42:29 AM
I know that it must be a far more stressful job than we all realize, but it baffles me why someone didn't think it would be smart to have 2 controllers on at the same time.

It's always about the $$ until there's a nearly fatal accident, then someone says "oh...we should add a second controller"


...duh...  [bang]

wbeck257

#6
March 25, 2011, 07:48:46 AM
Quote from: Bick on March 25, 2011, 07:38:43 AM
It doesn't matter how little traffic there is at that time.

He is paid to be there, doing his job, awake and alert.

Fire him. 

I agree, he should be fired.
But don't let them fool you into thinking that a disaster was narrowly averted.
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Monster Dave

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March 25, 2011, 07:53:17 AM
Quote from: wbeck257 on March 25, 2011, 07:48:46 AM
But don't let them fool you into thinking that a disaster was narrowly averted.

2 passenger planes had to land 'in the dark' ....um yeah...

zooom

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March 25, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 25, 2011, 07:53:17 AM
2 passenger planes had to land 'in the dark' ....um yeah...

someone please insert the video from Airplane where Johnnny unplugs the runway lights!
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Triple J

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March 25, 2011, 09:56:11 AM Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 09:58:38 AM by Triple J
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 25, 2011, 07:53:17 AM
2 passenger planes had to land 'in the dark' ....um yeah...

They had contact with a regional controller...

Quote from: wbeck257 on March 25, 2011, 05:04:14 AM
and pilots land planes all day and night long w/o the help of a tower. it is a basic skill.

I think a reprimand and probabtion would be fine for the controller (who was a supervisor nonetheless), and maybe take him off of that shift (or add a second person). Who knows why he was tired...maybe he has a 2 month old at home and hasn't been getting the usual amount of sleep. It was a mistake...a serious one...but it all turned out OK.

Kopfjager

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March 25, 2011, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: zooom on March 25, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
someone please insert the video from Airplane where Johnnny unplugs the runway lights!

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slowpoke13

#11
March 25, 2011, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: Triple J on March 25, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
I think a reprimand and probabtion would be fine for the controller (who was a supervisor nonetheless), and maybe take him off of that shift (or add a second person). Who knows why he was tired...maybe he has a 2 month old at home and hasn't been getting the usual amount of sleep. It was a mistake...a serious one...but it all turned out OK.

I disagree. I don't think it matters if it all "turned out ok." He's paid to do a job. Regardless of the end result, he didn't do the job. The job is a very important one that can have dire consequences. If there's a reason he couldn't do the job (i.e. too tired because of a baby at home), he should have found someone to cover for him.

I guess it's the military mentality in me. Know what happens if I fall asleep on watch? If I'm lucky, I just get demoted and restricted to the ship. If bad things do happen, I can be "fired" (kicked out) and that would have serious repercussions for the rest of my life.

So, I say demote him, suspend him w/o pay for a couple months, and let him try to work his way back.
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