magnesium wheels for street?

Started by uglyducky, March 25, 2011, 08:45:56 PM

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uglyducky

just wondering as i've read a MILLION threads all over the place that mag wheels are notorious for buckling under the city pothole pressure and are more appropriate for track applications.  any experience/thoughts on this?  asking b/c I may be making the swap from stock S4R wheels to PVM mags.  but, don't know if i'm asking for trouble as i kind ride around LA like an *ssh*le and tend to hit things in the road from time to time. 
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ducatiz

They are more prone to damage from things like potholes.

The difference in the ride is amazing though and with a lot of city riding, esp with LA traffic, you won't get to experience that as much as you would like.

I wouldn't say don't get a mod, but I think you're thinking along the right lines.  You'd have to avoid potholes religiously.
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uglyducky

Quote from: ducatiz on March 25, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
They are more prone to damage from things like potholes.

The difference in the ride is amazing though and with a lot of city riding, esp with LA traffic, you won't get to experience that as much as you would like.

I wouldn't say don't get a mod, but I think you're thinking along the right lines.  You'd have to avoid potholes religiously.
don't forget about all our canyons and countryside now  [moto] but, realistically, the bulk of my riding is splitting lanes in traffic and wheelies through beverly hills just to piss off the rich folk
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2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
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2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
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ducatiz

yeah, you'll really be able to do that with mags but they are a bit more fragile than the alu alloy wheels...  and a LOT more expensive..
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booger

Magnesium wheels are pretty expensive. Why not splurge on some BST carbon instead? They're fatigue-free and very strong indeed. They really are the strongest of the lightest. I'd amputate a toe for a set. I don't understand why anyone would consider mag wheels when there is the lighter stronger fatigue-free carbon BST option. Not only are they suitable but they are preferable for the street. Your bike will be absolutely transformed.

Then there are the OZ forged wheels which I believe you had a set of for DSS Monsters. Get a set of those as I understand they are a very well-made wheel and a good compromise between the lightness of mag and strength of aluminum. I think they are the lightest of the forged aluminums.

I definitely would not do mags though, not for street use. The new Marchi forged mags are supposed to be really tough and suitable for the street due to a proprietary Marchesini forging process. However they are super expensive and as long as I was spending that kind of money I'd spend a teeny weeny bit more and get BSTs. I'd lick a pile of white poop for a set of those. 
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ducatiz

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 26, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
Magnesium wheels are pretty expensive. Why not splurge on some BST carbon instead? They're fatigue-free and very strong indeed. They really are the strongest of the lightest. I'd amputate a toe for a set.


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Ya gotta believe in something

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uglyducky

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 26, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
Magnesium wheels are pretty expensive. Why not splurge on some BST carbon instead? They're fatigue-free and very strong indeed. They really are the strongest of the lightest. I'd amputate a toe for a set. I don't understand why anyone would consider mag wheels when there is the lighter stronger fatigue-free carbon BST option. Not only are they suitable but they are preferable for the street. Your bike will be absolutely transformed.

Then there are the OZ forged wheels which I believe you had a set of for DSS Monsters. Get a set of those as I understand they are a very well-made wheel and a good compromise between the lightness of mag and strength of aluminum. I think they are the lightest of the forged aluminums.

I definitely would not do mags though, not for street use. The new Marchi forged mags are supposed to be really tough and suitable for the street due to a proprietary Marchesini forging process. However they are super expensive and as long as I was spending that kind of money I'd spend a teeny weeny bit more and get BSTs. I'd lick a pile of white poop for a set of those. 
hahahahahaha ^^^ that's funny.  actually i found a set for sale for a good price used but the more i hear about "aged" magnesium the less i like it.  i was also told that they were not legal for street use in many countries as a direct result of the compromised integrity of the material in a "real world" application, in other words they were found to be very dangerous.  if i'm shelling out bling  [bacon] i don't want to crack a wheel or my noggin.
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2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
2005 S4R - Bastarda Nera (sold)
2001 M900Sie modded to high holy hell (sold)
2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
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lawbreaker

I'd go Forged Aluminum or just OEM for the street.. The track is a whole different story.



And YES L.A roads can be nasty, so you need to look out for potholes... and garbage, miscellaneous road debris, gangsters, bums, senior citizen drivers, texters, broads putting on make up (to include men in certain parts of L.A- read WeHo and LBC)... or talking on the phone... and the multi-task challenged, teenagers, unlicensed drivers, drivers who don't like two wheelers, drunks, chronic pot smokers, tourists, look-e-loo's near traffic accidents... and the dreaded Toyota Prius.




uglyducky

Quote from: lawbreaker on March 26, 2011, 06:55:09 PM
I'd go Forged Aluminum or just OEM for the street.. The track is a whole different story.



And YES L.A roads can be nasty, so you need to look out for potholes... and garbage, miscellaneous road debris, gangsters, bums, senior citizen drivers, texters, broads putting on make up (to include men in certain parts of L.A- read WeHo and LBC)... or talking on the phone... and the multi-task challenged, teenagers, unlicensed drivers, drivers who don't like two wheelers, drunks, chronic pot smokers, tourists, look-e-loo's near traffic accidents... and the dreaded Toyota Prius.




i guess you've been around here once or twice  ;)
2008 S4RS - Tricolore #324 (about to get bastardized)
2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
2005 S4R - Bastarda Nera (sold)
2001 M900Sie modded to high holy hell (sold)
2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
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Drunken Monkey

A few years back when BSTs ran in the $6K range, $2-3K for Mag wheels made sense. I have a set, they're awesome

But with the price of BSTs now in the $4K range, I don't much see the point of buying anything else. They are awesomer.

I own several motorcycles. I have owned lots of motorcycles. And have bolted and/or modified lots of crap to said motorcycles...

Speeddog

My cast magnesium Marchesinis are still round and crack-free after 34k miles and almost 7 years.

I try to not hit potholes, but that's just a basic thing, not just due to the wheels.

I am obliged to point out that the OEM aluminum wheels are nothing special in terms of pothole resistance, they're pretty soft.
I suspect they could be repaired successfully more often than mag wheels.
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uglyducky

well i heard mixed reviews about these particular wheels (PVM) and if i'm spending my (not so) hard earned cash money i want something a little more reputable.  they were a great deal at $900 but at least 10 years old or so and i passed on em.
2008 S4RS - Tricolore #324 (about to get bastardized)
2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
2005 S4R - Bastarda Nera (sold)
2001 M900Sie modded to high holy hell (sold)
2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
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booger

I always thought CA didn't have many potholes because there were no freeze/thaw cycles to tear up the roads. Winter is the main reason for potholes around here. Giant sharp-edged deep-walled road-chasms that sneak up on you. You have to memorize their locations, after you hit them of course. BAM WTF now I need new tie rods [bang]
Everybody got a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

2001 M900Sie - sold
2006 S2R1000 - sold
2008 HM1100S - sold
2004 998 FE - $old
2007 S4RT
2007 Vespa LX50 aka "Slowey"
2008 BMW R1200 GSA

uglyducky

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 27, 2011, 11:29:02 AM
I always thought CA didn't have many potholes because there were no freeze/thaw cycles to tear up the roads. Winter is the main reason for potholes around here. Giant sharp-edged deep-walled road-chasms that sneak up on you. You have to memorize their locations, after you hit them of course. BAM WTF now I need new tie rods [bang]
no, cali builds roads out of gingerbread and frosting.  so every time it f@#kin rains 95% of the road washes away with it.  then it makes for some fun riding.
2008 S4RS - Tricolore #324 (about to get bastardized)
2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
2005 S4R - Bastarda Nera (sold)
2001 M900Sie modded to high holy hell (sold)
2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
dirtypunkysocalreggae . . . MANDORiCO