Zard parts and Repair suggestions please- Images Fixed...

Started by Radar, March 29, 2011, 11:53:43 AM

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Radar

Hi folks,

I have an 05 S4R with a full Zard exhaust. I bought the bike from a salvage dealer, but the damage to the bike was so slight, I felt perfectly comfortable buying it.

OK- You can see the stainless steel "band" is rashed, so I need a new band and the proper rivets. Also, you can maybe see the "disk" shaped part of the SS exhaust is also worn down a bit.

So, Where can I find the band and rivets? I've sent emails to venders who carry Zard, but no one has returned my emails...

And, I'd like to hear suggestions on how to best repair the "rashed/worn portion of the exhaust--the "disk" shape.  Are welding, filing and refinishing my only option?

Thanks,

Eric M.

Sorry I couldn't make the images any larger!  Sheesh!

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Artful

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Artful

You can because you are logged into your email account (where these are linked from). Us poor fools without your email password are getting dead links. Host them somewhere public then relink.
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hackers2r


Artful

Every time I meet a new group of your friends that understand you and your weird sense of humor I'm a little more amazed that there are other people in the world like you that lived through childhood - My loving girlfriend

Artful

Every time I meet a new group of your friends that understand you and your weird sense of humor I'm a little more amazed that there are other people in the world like you that lived through childhood - My loving girlfriend

hackers2r

Rather than vendors, I'd contact Zard directly.  They have an importer in the USA.  www.zardamerica.com  From experience, that disc shaped part or inlet, is going to be the most expensive piece on the exhaust as it includes the entire perforate tube as well.  The rivets and rivet strap should be a snap to replace.

scooby

I had the same issue om my arrows, I drilled out the rivets, rotated the metal band and re-riveted it with stainless rivets from ace hardware; good as new.
What would ScoobyDoo?

Radar

Scooby,

You and I think alike.  I did think of that, but I figured a new strap and the rivets couldn't possibly be very expensive. And, if I did that, the ends of the strap would end up "showing." That wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'd prefer to install a new strap.

So, am I to understand that the perforated tube is an integral part of the exhaust inlet? I was assuming that after the rivets have been drilled, the carbon can would simply slide off.

But if the perforated tube is welded at both ends, I'll have to drill rivets on both ends, slide the can off, and take the stainless piece to a competent welder to fix the "rashed" piece.

Do I understand correctly?

Thanks for the input-

Eric M.
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hackers2r

Negative, the perforated core is welded to the inlet cap and slips into the endcap.  The one that is damaged in the pic is the inlet.  Drill rivets and remove.  You could probably just rotate it to hide the damage.  I have no idea how else you could repair that.  Is it cracked?  Or just scratched?

Radar

It's just scratched, rashed and a little tweaked, but the scraped/worn down portion of the actual inlet needs to be repaired.

So, I guess I'll drill all the rivets, have the inlet welded and then I'll shape it to fit the rest of the inlet.

If I can't find a new strap, I'll just rotate it to hide the rash...

Thanks all...

Eric M.
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corey

cut the carbon cans off of the curvy pipes that spaghetti around under the seat and shit.. cut it like RIGHT at the seam where it's welded to the pipe.

Then either have an exhaust shop fab up some pipes and slashcut the exhaust end and weld them on, or weld on some megaphones from another exhaust. would be mega-cool.

would be awesome to weld on some of these:

http://www.dan-moto.com/monster-696-796-1100-all-years-conical-gp-product-416.html?zenid=55420ovhippcbeorfiigfkurq2

Then you'd have something nobody else does  [thumbsup]
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S2daRk

The rivets for the Zards are "Closed-end Blind Rivets". Got mine from Ebay seller: isellrivets
I used 3/16" diameter, 3/8" grip stainless rivets. Some guys use aluminum because they are easier to install. I had to get a bigger rivet gun to install the SS rivets.

For the straps, I used a CAD program to draw them up and a local shop used a waterjet to cut them from aluminum sheet. That way I was able to anodize them gold. I actually have an extra set of straps, but unfortunately, they are gold, so they won't match yours.

If you can't locate a supplier for the straps, I can send you the strap you need. You can strip the gold, sand, and polish. It won't be a perfect match to the SS straps, but it would be better than the rashed up one you have on there now!

You can see the Zards pipes/straps here: http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9872.45

S2daRk

Ummm....brain fart....I actually REPLACED the original straps with aluminum ones; therefore, I should have the SS strap you need somewhere in my garage.
PM me your address and I'll get it mailed out [thumbsup].

Radar

If you were able to send me an actual OEM stainless steel strap, I will owe you dinner and drinks!!!

The Zard rep for the US is looking into a replacement part, or so he says, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

I've been making calls, leaving emails, and generally searching high and low for this simple part, but it's hard to get anyone to actually do anything...

Please have a look around your garage, at your convenience, and see if you can find the straps...

I'll leave my number and address in your private message folder.

Update:   PM sent-

Thanks,

Eric M.

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