Monster 848R Concept

[NFJ79]

848 monster doesn't make any sense to me. Monsters are the air cooled comfortable do anything blank slate of the ducati family.

848 streetfighter on the other hand makes perfect sense.  throw on cheaper suspension/brakes than the (like the pre evo 848)  and use SF styling/technical aesthetics and price it about a grand less than an evo and consider it sort of the bottem end of the SBK/SF range.

+1  I agree!  This would bring the SF into my comfortable price range for a bike.

[dropstharockalot]

848 Monster?

Yes, please.

[DucatiTorrey]

The whole point of the SF was to have a water cooled naked bike. The whole point of thr Diavel is to have a cruiser. The SF already covers the need. It would be truly idiotic for Ducati to build this bike. If anything, they would build an 848 SF, not a Monster  

[Rigez]

1) Minoli was talking about the possibility of a Diavel style of Ducati power cruiser about March 2005 -- 

2) 848 Monster?  Not gonna happen for one primary reason -- The existing frame / airbox / rear seat subframe casting won't physically fit with the Testastretta engine.  I've already tried it because I really loved the S4RT Monster with the Testastretta engine.  (the older 4-valve setup will fit with some minor changes and a few people have built already in the US/Europe)

If anyone ever builds one -- please post!

Do you happen to have links to those engine swaps? I've done google search and have only found references to the 1x98 swaps into 848

[scduc]

The SF is really a cross between naked super bike and a monster. Really not one or the other. I feel that there would only be slight conflict of interest. I do like the SF, however the ergo's really do not fit well for the ageing. Therefore the monster will most likely be my choice for awhile. Now if I had the chance to get 130+hp   YEAH. And prior history shows that the monster has eventually received its 4 valve'r hi HP motor so why should this model be any different? I do think however that if something like this does happen, it will be with the 1198 motor. It doesnt make much sense to go to the 848 from the 1100. The HP would only be 130ish as oppossed to 170ish.

[bikepilot]

Maybe I'm just weird, but I found the SF really comfy.  Now I haven't spent any significant time on one, but just trying it out for size everything fell into place and felt just perfect ergonomically.  I can't say the same for any other stock street bike I've been on. I'm not especially old, but my joints are probably worse than most peoples' (RA).

[duccarlos]

I think the aggressive siting position of the SF is what really turns people off. You need a lot of weight on the front to keep it on the ground.

And prior history shows that the monster has eventually received its 4 valve'r hi HP motor so why should this model be any different?

Because there was no naked water cooled bike. Why do you think they even built the SF? I understand you guys don't like the SF for whatever reason. I don't like it because of the ergos, but that doesn't take away from the fact that no manufacturer would build 2 bikes that would compete directly with one another. For the water cooled Monster to live, the SF must die.

[donzo]

Anybody know how the SF sales are going anyway?  I think I've seen like two on the roads, but there's plenty of monsters.  If the SF did kick the can, the monster could use the extra oomph.

[duccarlos]

I've seen a few in South Florida. I assume it also sells well in Cali. Most other places when I see a Duc, it's usually an SBK.

[IdZer0]

I'm stubborn; still think an SF848 makes sense.

	2010	2011	2012
	1198	1198SP	Superquadrata
	848	848	848SP
	SF1098	SF1098	SF1198
	-	-	SF848
	M1100S	-	-
	M1100	M1100evo	M1100evo

[duccarlos]

I would love to see a SF848. Probably won't happen, but it would be logical.

[scduc]

I think the aggressive siting position of the SF is what really turns people off. You need a lot of weight on the front to keep it on the ground.

Because there was no naked water cooled bike. Why do you think they even built the SF? I understand you guys don't like the SF for whatever reason. I don't like it because of the ergos, but that doesn't take away from the fact that no manufacturer would build 2 bikes that would compete directly with one another. For the water cooled Monster to live, the SF must die.

I personally believe that they built the SF for the same reason they built the Hyper or the Multi. It was to fill what Ducati thought was a void in the market. The SF has no bearing on what will or wont happen to the monster. Clearly these are two different bikes and should be considered that way. The SF is a naked SB and the monster is a monster. Water cooled or not has nothing to do with what will or will not happen to the monster. That statment is like saying that Ducati has a liquid cooled bike so they should not build any other liquid cooled bike because that will just compete against itself. If anything, the SF is (would compete) more with the 1198. Which is what it basically is.


I personally would like to see an 848 Monster. its the next logical step.

[mattc7]

Do you happen to have links to those engine swaps? I've done google search and have only found references to the 1x98 swaps into 848

Aretemoto built a 696 with a 996 motor

[Triple J]

The SF has no bearing on what will or wont happen to the monster. Clearly these are two different bikes and should be considered that way. The SF is a naked SB and the monster is a monster. Water cooled or not has nothing to do with what will or will not happen to the monster. That statment is like saying that Ducati has a liquid cooled bike so they should not build any other liquid cooled bike because that will just compete against itself. If anything, the SF is (would compete) more with the 1198. Which is what it basically is.

The 1198 and SF are different because one is faired, and the other isn't. Seating position is quite a bit different as well. Big difference overall. The other 1098 motor bikes are also completely different...Diavel more of a muscle bike, and MTS a tourer. None of these hurt each others sales as they are targeting different buyers.

The problem with having a water cooled Monster AND a SF (848 or 1098), is that both are just water-cooled naked bikes. Seating position and looks would be the only thing distinguishing them. Therefore, they would target the same demographic...people that want a water-cooled naked bike.

What sets the Monster apart now is it is an air-cooled naked bike...and there is a demographic that prefer air-cooled motors and would never buy a SF.

[justinrhenry]

i have a streetfighter and love it, but i have to admit the monster is way more comfy.