Monster 848R Concept

[duccarlos]

And I doubt it ever will simply because there are choices out there. I think we can say the same about the new Monster versus the old one.

[muskrat]

a classic can never be replaced. 

[duccarlos]

a classic can never be replaced. 

You're just bitter you bought the ugly bike.

[xcaptainxbloodx]

I'm sure they ride great, but that doesn't change the fact they are ugly. 

sorry, sometimes I forget that looks are what really matters.

[muskrat]

You're just bitter you bought the ugly bike.

nah, she's mine and paid for....the best of both worlds. 

[thought]

If you replace the SF because you think the Monster looks better, then frankly, you are a poser.

hmmm... to rephrase this... because your basis for the air cooled vs water cooled argument just seems to be looks...

"If you replace the water cooled monster because you think the air cooled monster looks better, then frankly, you're a poser."

according to your own logic that's the conclusion to be drawn right?

[lazylightnin717]

...liquid cooled monsters are better...
 




















and that's my arguement

[duccarlos]

hmmm... to rephrase this... because your basis for the air cooled vs water cooled argument just seems to be looks...

"If you replace the water cooled monster because you think the air cooled monster looks better, then frankly, you're a poser."

according to your own logic that's the conclusion to be drawn right?

The difference is I own up to it. Very simple, the old Monster frame was never designed for an water cooled engine. Many people like it because it's at the very edge. The sitting position alone is not optimal for that much power. Again, it was a hack job that paid off in sales. AND, it's also ugly to boot.

[671M900]

The difference is I own up to it. Very simple, the old Monster frame was never designed for an water cooled engine. Many people like it because it's at the very edge. The sitting position alone is not optimal for that much power. Again, it was a hack job that paid off in sales. AND, it's also ugly to boot.

Weren't the later, fuel injected monsters with the ride height adjusters designed around the ST2 frame? I've heard them referred to as the ST2 style frames, and the ST2 was watercooled, wasn't it?

[duccarlos]

It might have a beefier trellis frame, but not sure if it was a redesign from the ST2. I will let the carbie people answer that one.

[Raux]

Weren't the later, fuel injected monsters with the ride height adjusters designed around the ST2 frame? I've heard them referred to as the ST2 style frames, and the ST2 was watercooled, wasn't it?

ST2 was a watercooled 2V bike it was basically at 900 bumped to 944 with waterjacketed heads but same setup as the rest of the 2V family... yes I know a very simplistic description.

[mitt]

sorry, sometimes I forget that looks are what really matters.

It is a ducati at starbucks afterall        


mitt

[Duck-Stew]

Weren't the later, fuel injected monsters with the ride height adjusters designed around the ST2 frame? I've heard them referred to as the ST2 style frames, and the ST2 was watercooled, wasn't it?

1993-2001 Monster frames were based on the 888 SBK frame which was water-cooled.
2002-2008 Monster frames were based on the ST frames which were water-cooled.
2009&up Monsters don't have frames. 

[Betty]

2009&up Monsters don't have frames. 

Considering that is the one thing that I really dislike about the looks of the new Monsters ... I found that hilarious. Thanks Stew.

[duccarlos]

Bring back the Trellis frame.