Helmet law in MI may be 86'd soon.

[SacDuc]

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110404/POLITICS02/104040334/Helmet-rules-likely-to-be-nixed



I would really like to hear from someone in MI what their insurance rates are now and if they go up if this passes.

Helmet Laws: Good or Bad? Discuss. (again)


sac

[Artful]

[Monster Dave]

Good Idea.

You could still die. But at least your chances of survival aren't hindered by NOT wearing a helmet.

[Punx Clever]

If you don't want to wear a helmet, your choice.

[Triple J]

If you don't want to wear a helmet, your choice.

+1...although I would never ride without a full-face helmet and other protective gear.

That said, this clip from the article is ridiculous. Unbelievable that someone would actually believe not wearing a helmet would give them a better defense!  

Sen. John Gleason, D-Flushing, doesn't ride himself, but said he was convinced to support change after talking to motorcycle enthusiasts.

"What I've been told is they can see and hear better (without) a helmet," Gleason said. "Most of the accidents that occur are cars hitting bikes, and it gives them a better defense."

I also don't buy the higher insurance rates for all of us argument as to why helmets should be required. Using that logic we may as well outlaw motorcycles all together since they're more dangerous than cars.

[SacDuc]

If you don't want to wear a helmet, your choice.

I tend to agree but I would really like to know if everyone's insurance rates go up once helmet laws are repealed. Being a ATGATT nazi I don't want to subsidize what I see as someone else's poor decision.


sac

[JEFF_H]

reminds me of a conversation i had with a grizzly harley guy at a anti-helmet (or is that pro-freedom) booth at a race.
him- ya know if you crash, that helmet will break your neck
me- ohmygod...has anybody told those guys on the track...they are all wearing them.

Idaho- no helmet law...i would estimate in town  less than 50% wear helmets (and virtually none of the cruiser riders)
out of town, i would guesstimate 70% wear helmets

[gregrnel]

All for it, as long as you take care of the extra medical bills yourself so they don't affect my rates.

If you don't want to wear a helmet, your choice.

[Cloner]

All for it, as long as you take care of the extra medical bills yourself so they don't affect my rates.

The problem I have with society at large is there is no consequence to making poor decisions...other than pain, disfigurement, and possible death, that is.  If you're dumb enough to ride lidless and get hurt, and you can't afford to pay your medical bills, society will pay them for you.  That's DUMB.  I think the removal of tax subsidies for the dumb in the form of mandates that hospitals care for people who can't afford it would fix half of our society's ills.  The other half also involve personal responsibility, but for taking care of your retirement and day-to-day medical care....but I digress.

Helmet laws:  bad
Riding without a helmet:  worse

[Punx Clever]

The problem I have with society at large is there is no consequence to making poor decisions...other than pain, disfigurement, and possible death, that is.  If you're dumb enough to ride lidless and get hurt, and you can't afford to pay your medical bills, society will pay them for you.  That's DUMB.  I think the removal of tax subsidies for the dumb in the form of mandates that hospitals care for people who can't afford it would fix half of our society's ills.  The other half also involve personal responsibility, but for taking care of your retirement and day-to-day medical care....but I digress.

Helmet laws:  bad
Riding without a helmet:  worse

I think we are in agreement.

[Monster Dave]

Helmet laws:  bad
Riding without a helmet:  worse

I look at it like back when we were kids and our parents told that us all that we had to do something because it was for your own good - I look at it the same way here.

Some people need saving from themselves. Just suck it up, protect yourself, and ride responsibly.



*Note: I'm slightly biased because a full faced helmet saved my face/life once.

[Triple J]

The problem I have with society at large is there is no consequence to making poor decisions...other than pain, disfigurement, and possible death, that is.  If you're dumb enough to ride lidless and get hurt, and you can't afford to pay your medical bills, society will pay them for you.  That's DUMB.  

Note the change I made which many cagers would happily make.

Helmet laws:  bad
Riding without a helmet:  worse

I think we agree though.

[Travman]

+1, I don't disagree with Cloner, but that's exactly what I thought when I read his statement. 

[Punx Clever]

*Note: I'm slightly biased because a full faced helmet saved my face/life once.

Saved my life more than I can count between street bikes, dirt bikes, and racing go-karts.  But once you are an adult, its your responsibility to keep yourself alive

[muskrat]

I tend to agree but I would really like to know if everyone's insurance rates go up once helmet laws are repealed. Being a ATGATT nazi I don't want to subsidize what I see as someone else's poor decision.


sac

it hasn't in Texas