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Author Topic: Zard vs. Arrow  (Read 5607 times)
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« on: April 18, 2011, 02:05:53 PM »

I am finally looking at exhaust for the bike.  Grin and I have it narrowed down to 2 (but open to suggestions)
I am compairing between these

Full 2-2 Ti Arrow Shotgun style like shown in this picture
http://www.bellissimoto.com/images/Full_titanio_1.JPG

Or the Zard 2-2 Ti Under tail like shown here *tho pictured is the CF you get the idea*
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Monster%20parts/ZARD.jpg

My question is the Zard are about 300 more...  Is it worth it?  If they are better sure, but if all things being equal I am kinda partial to the shotgun style since thats whats stock on my S2R1k

I would love to have some Termi's but I dont like how long the can is on them, and they are out of my price range at this time.
Thanks for the help Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 02:31:15 PM »

+1 for Arrows

The Zard 2-2  system is nice but hard to get the cans lined up perfect. :\
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 03:23:14 PM »

i like both, but would go non carbon

but


dont cover the wheel... imho
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 03:39:05 PM »

Arrows ...the sound is amazing

I have the CF version like it alot .....classic lines with the shotgun
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 03:39:59 PM »

The Zards look better IMO.

I hate the stacked exhaust arrangement though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 06:43:47 PM »

+1 on the Arrows--you won't be sorry.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 07:04:16 AM »

Thanks for the replies guys, Yeah Its going to be the Arrows in Titanium.   waytogo
As for the ecu,  What is the best course of action, Reflash? that closed loop plug and play thing? 
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 11:31:53 AM »

ARROW FTW

they have a very UNIQUE and BADASS sound, nothing comes close
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 02:55:56 PM »

If your just doing the exhaust no need for any ecu mods ...its only when you open the air box and pipes that you need massage the ecu

I would suggest a Power Commander ( thats what I run )

but that being said I have not done the ECU mod   but others have
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 05:06:45 PM »

Pro-Italia can reflash... http://www.ducatiperformance.com/ducati-ecu-reflash-p-150097.html

I'm partial to the Zard. I love the balanced look of the under seat exhaust.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 06:26:13 PM »

I'd go either one over the Termi's. They are over-rated IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2011, 06:25:52 AM »

I love my Arrows.  They make my bike sound like a V8. MMmmm.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 09:28:53 AM »

Arrow full system with Ti silencers on my S4R.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43649.0
( with air box & ECU mod. Scroll down, there's print out of dyno run.)

The style (over and under shotgun style or side by side) is personal preference.
The material of silencer outer, carbon and titanium makes a little bit different sound.

The weld on Arrow exhaust system is nicer than Termi's.

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2011, 08:29:39 PM »

We are flashing the ECU for free with the purchase of a full system right now FWIW  waytogo
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 06:29:34 AM »

That is really good to know. 
Let me ask this,
For starters I care more about reliability than a few extra horse power.  Is there anything I need to be worried about having the ecu reflashed verses doing the Fat Duc o2 senser mod,  I have tried to look back at the ecu page and it seems no one has really had much for issues with the fatduc once they dialed it in.

Any info would be great.
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