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Started by avizpls, April 26, 2011, 05:46:40 AM

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avizpls

#30
May 02, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing you haven't had the pleasure of dealing with these fools.

If by replace, you mean allow me to buy new, yes.
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ducatiz

#31
May 02, 2011, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 02, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing you haven't had the pleasure of dealing with these fools.

If by replace, you mean allow me to buy new, yes.

no, i've emailed plenty with them trying to get questions answered, but i am surprised they wouldn't offer you something for a failed unit.  wtf?
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avizpls

#32
May 02, 2011, 08:11:24 AM
Part of it is that I am sick of wasting my breath dealing with them. Its so frustrating.

I sent them an email basically saying they suck, their product is a joke, the support is deplorable, and I want a refund.

not the way to make friends, but after everything Ive gone thru trying to work WITH them, make the beast with two backs it. They have the option now of working FOR me or not at all.
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junior varsity

#33
May 02, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
i had one replaced that simply stopped responding all together one time, and I'd have the software freeze on me infrequently (but enough to note)


i hope the one i've got now doesn't shit the bricks.



anybody using Silent Hektik?

ducatiz

#34
May 02, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Quote from: j v on May 02, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
i had one replaced that simply stopped responding all together one time, and I'd have the software freeze on me infrequently (but enough to note)


i hope the one i've got now doesn't shit the bricks.



anybody using Silent Hektik?

a few european guys pn the pantah list are but $$$$$$ sheesh!
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#35
May 02, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
...but if it works long-term?


...and has similar adjustability through selectable curves?

monsta

#36
May 02, 2011, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 02, 2011, 05:07:49 AM
how will you connect it to the Ipad?  No serial or USB

the ipad  does connect to usb, thats how you connect to itunes  (but I find it annoying so I dont use it)   
maybe an itune for bikes!  :D

I was actually thinking android, because I have an android phone and thought it'd be cool to be able to tune out on the road without having to take the laptop.

I had problems wiith my ignitech after a couple of track days. I had taken my standard modules out with me so I just swaped them back in. I think the problem was heat, because when I refitted the ignitech after everything had cooled it was ok.
I've since moved it to a cooler spot and had no dramas (tho, I havn't done any more track days with it)
93 M900 - 07 ST3 - 00 748s trackbike - 78 900SS - 13 848 EVO Corse SE

greenmonster

#37
May 02, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
Is it the version 80 or 75 or both that`s having problems?
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

krista

#38
May 03, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 02, 2011, 05:29:56 AM
wow.  another?? did htey replace the last one?

We (California Cycleworks) replaced more than a few at our cost. The ones we sent back to Ignitech in CZ were returned to us with the explanation that nothing was wrong with the units which were dead on arrival or sudden failures on otherwise stable running motorcycles.

There is one small batch of TCIP4's coming that I am giving to customers as warranty replacements. Ignitech owe me a few $thousand for these (and more) replacements before we buy any more. I would advise against buying that brand until they can guarantee support. I've lost $$$$ on them, so they're done getting the free support from Ca Cycleworks.

Gud times,
Chris
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
official nerd for ca-cycleworks.com

junior varsity

#39
May 03, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
Bummer. 


But I suppose that brings up the point that it can't be that hard to make a 'good' version of such a device... Or perhaps figure out a way to get something setup with Silent Hektik, Jako Motorsport, or AS Uotani.

Silent Hektik Option 1: http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_M-SS.htm
Silent Hektik Option 2: http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_PB.htm

Jako Motorsport Option: http://www.jako-motorsport.de/angebote/zuendanlage.html

AS Uotani Option # 00502: http://www.asuotani.com/fpkit.html

greenmonster

#40
May 04, 2011, 04:18:43 AM
QuoteThe ones we sent back to Ignitech in CZ were returned to us with the explanation that nothing was wrong with the units which were dead on arrival or sudden failures on otherwise stable running motorcycles.

That bit is sooo strange, did you try them when they came back? They were still bad?
Is it newer version 80 & Exakt-fit coils that don`t match or what?
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#41
May 04, 2011, 04:36:57 AM
Quote from: chris on May 03, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
We (California Cycleworks) replaced more than a few at our cost. The ones we sent back to Ignitech in CZ were returned to us with the explanation that nothing was wrong with the units which were dead on arrival or sudden failures on otherwise stable running motorcycles.

There is one small batch of TCIP4's coming that I am giving to customers as warranty replacements. Ignitech owe me a few $thousand for these (and more) replacements before we buy any more. I would advise against buying that brand until they can guarantee support. I've lost $$$$ on them, so they're done getting the free support from Ca Cycleworks.

Gud times,
Chris

I had no idea it was so bad.  They have really f**ed themselves for the USA market.  Chris was the only vendor who stepped up to import them and support them in the USA.

It's a real shame, such a great concept.

Now I wonder if their issue with using serial vs USB is more of a design problem they have...
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducatiz

#42
May 04, 2011, 04:38:25 AM
Quote from: j v on May 03, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
Bummer. 


But I suppose that brings up the point that it can't be that hard to make a 'good' version of such a device... Or perhaps figure out a way to get something setup with Silent Hektik, Jako Motorsport, or AS Uotani.

Silent Hektik Option 1: http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_M-SS.htm
Silent Hektik Option 2: http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_PB.htm

Jako Motorsport Option: http://www.jako-motorsport.de/angebote/zuendanlage.html

AS Uotani Option # 00502: http://www.asuotani.com/fpkit.html

All of those suck, IMHO.  Anything that involves more than swapping the CDI boxes and MAYBE upgrading the pickups is overdoing it.  There is no reason to do all of that.


Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

avizpls

#43
May 04, 2011, 04:48:58 AM Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 07:42:10 AM by avizpls
The cause of the problems are unknown.

I had an 80 die with stock coils, so its not necessarily the ExactFit/V80 combo that's a killer.      

My next step is to stop using ch1 and see if I can get a unit to die that way. I have a map that will run cyl1 off of ch 1 and 4 (ch1 being dead) and cyl2 from ch2 and 3.

Maybe with the extra "auto" settings they have monitoring ch1 with some current-sense resistor, they are overloading that sink. We'll see and I'll try and keep this updated with what I find as I find it. This isnt my only headache now, so whatever  [wine]

I got set up a wiring harness to swap in my stock units quickly though. I need to put the tank back on and do a full diagnosis of the elctrical system (stator and regulator basically.) before I connect another Ignitek to it.

Oh, and also, for anyone who hasnt figured it out, CA Cycleworks are NOT the problem here. They've done more to help me than Ignitech themselves.
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junior varsity

#44
May 04, 2011, 05:27:07 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 04, 2011, 04:48:58 AM
Oh, and also, for anyone who hasnt figured it out, CA Cycleworks are NOT the problem here. They've done more to help me than Ignitech themselves.

amen.   chris has been great
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