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avizpls

#75
May 09, 2011, 08:41:31 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 09, 2011, 08:10:08 AM
\  I wonder if they did it just to prevent people from cracking it open and duplicating the EEPROM

Probably a mix of that and this is the easiest way to package them. A company like this will usually rightfully take some steps to protect IP
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greenmonster

#76
May 10, 2011, 01:18:01 AM
QuoteIt could be the solution to many instances of failed ignitechs.....Cautiously optimistic

So you`ll be able to find a real cause to these units failing?
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avizpls

#77
May 10, 2011, 09:39:23 AM Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 10:06:34 AM by avizpls
I honestly hope so. What spark plug were you running when yours died?

I got my last and final ignitech yesterday (thanks Chris!) and I havent even hoooked it up yet. I will probably do that today. I will start it in the garage, then I will go out on it tomorrow....maybe later tonight. Either way, I'm not calling it just yet. It will need to make it thru a day at NJMP before I trust it again. (so I'll report back on monday morning with my conclusion). Keep your fingers crossed!

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junior varsity

#78
May 10, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
are you implying that spark plug choice is killing these units?

avizpls

#79
May 10, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
Thats whats being implied to me
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avizpls

#80
May 10, 2011, 10:17:20 AM
Fortunately, I have had enough of a data set now that I will know pretty much for sure soon.
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Langanobob

#81
May 10, 2011, 03:30:37 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 09, 2011, 08:10:08 AM
I had a guy take a look at mine -- they are epoxy filled so all the guts are sitting inside, buried in epoxy.  It's a curious choice given other electronic devices (such as the PCIII) are not and work fine.  I wonder if they did it just to prevent people from cracking it open and duplicating the EEPROM

I think potting electronics in epoxy is a fairly common practice for electronic device that are subject to vibration.  Pretty sure the MSD ignitions are potted, or at least used to be.  I don't think potting would stop a serious EEPROM reverse engineering type, but not being one myself, I really don't know.

Bob

ducatiz

#82
May 10, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Langanobob on May 10, 2011, 03:30:37 PM
I think potting electronics in epoxy is a fairly common practice for electronic device that are subject to vibration.  Pretty sure the MSD ignitions are potted, or at least used to be.  I don't think potting would stop a serious EEPROM reverse engineering type, but not being one myself, I really don't know.

Bob



Well you're right at least as far as the stock sparker boxes -- they are potted.  But the PCIII is not, just rubber mounted inside a metal case. 
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koko64

#83
May 11, 2011, 02:35:33 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 10, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
Thats whats being implied to me

Please tell us soon. I'm sweating on my Igniteck. I'm running NGK Iridium plugs Resistor type DPR8EIX-9 or standard resistor type NGK DPR8EA-9. Could the issue be resistor Vs non resistor type plugs?
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greenmonster

#84
May 11, 2011, 03:42:07 AM
QuoteWhat spark plug were you running when yours died?

Mine is not dead, happy w it.
Really surprised, this is the first time I`ve heard of them dying.
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#85
May 11, 2011, 04:44:36 AM
Quote from: greenmonster on May 11, 2011, 03:42:07 AM
Mine is not dead, happy w it.
Really surprised, this is the first time I`ve heard of them dying.

How many have you used?  I assume ca-cycleworks has dealt with more than a sample size of 1.

I have had 1 and it is still working.  Therefore, I have only seen a 100% success rate.
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greenmonster

#86
May 11, 2011, 04:50:45 AM Last Edit: May 11, 2011, 04:53:14 AM by greenmonster
I`ve used 3, my friend w mates 9, I know 3 more that uses it.
If it was a bad quality product in general, I think we all would have noticed that earlier in various Forums etc.
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ducatiz

#87
May 11, 2011, 04:51:32 AM
Quote from: greenmonster on May 11, 2011, 04:50:45 AM
I used 3, my friend w mates 9, I know 3 more that uses it.
If it was a bad quality product in general, I think we all would have noticed that earlier in various Forums etc.

what generation?  i.e. model?  70 75 80?
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greenmonster

#88
May 11, 2011, 05:03:47 AM
On my M900  1997 in summer 2007, that`s when I started the megathread at TOB.
3rd on my father`s Suz 400 last summer.
Monster, dunno version, probably 70 or 75, it did not have a default Duc setting nor Ducati Kokusan map.
Where do I find version number?
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avizpls

#89
May 11, 2011, 08:36:58 AM Last Edit: May 11, 2011, 08:38:56 AM by avizpls
Quote from: koko64 on May 11, 2011, 02:35:33 AM
Please tell us soon. I'm sweating on my Igniteck. I'm running NGK Iridium plugs Resistor type DPR8EIX-9 or standard resistor type NGK DPR8EA-9. Could the issue be resistor Vs non resistor type plugs?

I was using DR8EA NGK plugs last year with the TCIP4 and Stock coils with no problem.

I wanted to upgrade to CA-Cycles red coils. Per there sites recommendation, I got D8EA plugs to go with them. (I just looked at the site and I dont see this recommendation. Maybe I was imagining it...either way, I did switch to the D8EA plugs)

Ignitions started dying. 3 to be exact. I changed variables on all three, but never thought of the plugs. I changed coils, wires etc.....

I put NGK plugs DR8EA in last night and it runs fine. I havent rode it yet, and  I wont until the track day this weekend so the real verdict comes after that.

But Ignitech says you must use a 'R' plug (which you are) and I inadvertently strayed away from 'R' plugs and my problems started. Everything adds up that yes, Non resistive plugs are the problem. I will feel more confident saying this on Monday....or I'lll have a different story all together.
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