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Started by DarkMonster620, April 28, 2011, 08:43:37 PM

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DarkMonster620

April 28, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
Hey all,

Just a quick question trying to get it clear, many posts regarding issue, many different answers to the subject.

When I replace the belts on my Monster 620 Dark, vintage 2005[for teh second time], do I need to replace ALL THE PULLEYS?

Thanks for concise answers.
Carlos
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ducatiz

#1
April 28, 2011, 08:46:17 PM
do you mean "replace" as in put them back on the bike or buy new ones?

if the former, then yes.

if the latter, then no.
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DarkMonster620

#2
April 28, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on April 28, 2011, 08:46:17 PM
do you mean "replace" as in put them back on the bike or buy new ones?

if the former, then yes.

if the latter, then no.

No, get new ones ... tech says he won't warranty job if no new pulleys are brought in ...
Carlos
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducatiz

#3
April 28, 2011, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on April 28, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
No, get new ones ... tech says he won't warranty job if no new pulleys are brought in ...

unless something is wrong with them, i don't get it.  i've got the same pulleys from the factory on all of my bikes.  i replaced the tensioner bearings on a few of them, but that's it.

replace the pulleys??  ??? ??? ???
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DarkMonster620

#4
April 28, 2011, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on April 28, 2011, 08:54:27 PM
unless something is wrong with them, i don't get it.  i've got the same pulleys from the factory on all of my bikes.  i replaced the tensioner bearings on a few of them, but that's it.

replace the pulleys??  ??? ??? ???

yup ... so if I have to  ... adjustable a good way to go? ...
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducatiz

#5
April 28, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on April 28, 2011, 08:57:16 PM
yup ... so if I have to  ... adjustable a good way to go? ...

unless i am mistaken, the factory pulleys on the 2005 models are adjustable.

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booger

#6
April 28, 2011, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on April 28, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
No, get new ones ... tech says he won't warranty job if no new pulleys are brought in ...

Pulleys are permanent items, not wear items. They don't ever need to be replaced. Your bike already has adjustable pulleys.

Your tech, whoever this person is, does not sound knowledgeable enough to work on the bike. Belts are the second easiest maintenance operation, after an oil change.
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#7
April 28, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: bergdoerfer on April 28, 2011, 09:41:52 PM
Belts are the second easiest maintenance operation, after an oil change.

I'd say lubing the throttle cable and checking light bulbs is easier than oil change...  ;D
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Ddan

#8
April 29, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on April 28, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
I'd say lubing the throttle cable and checking light bulbs is easier than oil change...  ;D
Lubing the cable is a pain in the ass, I'd rather do belts.   ;D


Carlos, do them yourself, your tech is either incompetent or dishonest.
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DarkMonster620

#9
April 29, 2011, 03:43:37 AM
Quote from: Dan on April 29, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
Lubing the cable is a pain in the ass, I'd rather do belts.   ;D


Carlos, do them yourself, your tech is either incompetent or dishonest.

From what I read, he's dishonest ...

He was, afterall like me, an autotechnician before turning to motorcycles ... and he used to work for the now extint 'stealership' ...

See you tonight ... gotta go ...

Have anice day !
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducatiz

#10
April 29, 2011, 05:40:15 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on April 29, 2011, 03:43:37 AM
From what I read, he's dishonest ...

He was, afterall like me, an autotechnician before turning to motorcycles ... and he used to work for the now extint 'stealership' ...

See you tonight ... gotta go ...

Have anice day !

if you look on youtube, chris from ca-cycleworks has a complete belt job posted for both 2v and 4v.  it's a nonce.  if you aren't a paraplegic and have tools, do it yourself.   [thumbsup]
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Slide Panda

#11
April 29, 2011, 06:19:52 AM
+1 the the above... Unless the pulleys or tensioners are damaged or worn for some reason they don't need to be replaced with the belts - that's nuts. Really the pullys rpobably will never need to be replaced. The tensioner bearings may need to be, but not for a long while unless somethings wrong. I;ve got 31+ k on my 900 and the original tensioner bearings are just fine.
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Privateer

#12
April 30, 2011, 09:01:28 AM
I'm hoping to do this tonight.  I watched chris' video...

did I miss the part on how he turns the engine to line up the timing mark on the flywheel?
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csorin

#13
April 30, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: Privateer on April 30, 2011, 09:01:28 AM
I'm hoping to do this tonight.  I watched chris' video...

did I miss the part on how he turns the engine to line up the timing mark on the flywheel?

Raise the rear end, take out the spark plugs, put bike in first gear, and turn the rear wheel.

Privateer

#14
April 30, 2011, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: csorin on April 30, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
Raise the rear end, take out the spark plugs, put bike in first gear, and turn the rear wheel.

nice, thank you.  I was going to try that, but I didn't think about removing the spark plugs.  thanks for the tip.
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