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raulduke

#75
June 19, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
"The average beat cop has an 870 with an extended magazine.  No folding stocks, uber elite taclight, bandoliers or anything of that sort."



Not entirely correct.  Depends on where you are.  Here in lovely St. Louis MO (most dangerous city 2002,2003,2006...and pushing for a strong finish in 2008) our beat cops either have a AR or a Berretta Storm in the car. 

I know.  I train many of them.   I would like to think they receive very high quality "breech and clear" training.  I think they could use a bit more of it but we work them pretty hard...

They are allowed to bring an AR or the dept will issue them a Storm.  Why they chose the Storm I cannot say (cost about 1/2 of a MP5).

Just my .02





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junior varsity

#76
June 20, 2008, 05:14:32 AM
I just saw those new numbers, I can't remember #3, but here's the short list:

1.) Detroit
2.) Memphis (Whoo! Hometown proud!)
3.) ???
4.) Nashville

ducatiz

#77
June 20, 2008, 06:31:09 AM
Quote from: raulduke on June 19, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
They are allowed to bring an AR or the dept will issue them a Storm.  Why they chose the Storm I cannot say (cost about 1/2 of a MP5).

Just my .02

Contract with Beretta, probably.

DOn't compare the retail pricing, you have no idea what kind of a deal they get for them.

NYPD has a 10 year contract with Glock to supply 18,000 G23 pistols, repair parts and smithing for something like $250 per gun.  I believe the contract was recently extended as well.  This was also for the custom trigger setup required by their less-than-skilled shooters.

They also have a contract with S&W for the 4006, but I think that is for far fewer guns, maybe 8-10k of them.  They will likely renew for the M&P if it passes the NYPD's "idiot" tests.  Those are running around $200 each.

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junior varsity

#78
June 20, 2008, 06:34:48 AM
Too bad I can't get those kinds of deals because I chose a different profession. I'd have quite a collection.

ducatiz

#79
June 20, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: ato memphis on June 20, 2008, 06:34:48 AM
Too bad I can't get those kinds of deals because I chose a different profession. I'd have quite a collection.

oh, they don't own them, they are dept issue.  NYPD does not sell their old guns, they go to a smelter.

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junior varsity

#80
June 20, 2008, 11:08:49 AM
i'm just saying - pricewise - that'd be nice.

Stangman

#81
June 20, 2008, 12:00:26 PM Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 08:03:28 AM by Statler
Quote from: silentbob on June 17, 2008, 10:16:02 AM


[laugh] Agreed.  I have a .40 with hollow points for home defense.  I am currently unprepared for zombie attacks though.  ;D

hbliam

#82
June 20, 2008, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 20, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
oh, they don't own them, they are dept issue.  NYPD does not sell their old guns, they go to a smelter.

Yep, most of those are department issue. Alot of agencies out here require you to purchase your own firearm, so we do get good deals and they are ours to keep.

Sinister

#83
June 20, 2008, 12:49:29 PM
Quote from: ato memphis on June 20, 2008, 05:14:32 AM
I just saw those new numbers, I can't remember #3, but here's the short list:

1.) Detroit
2.) Memphis (Whoo! Hometown proud!)
3.) ???
4.) Nashville

D.C. or Philly?
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Smiling End

#84
June 20, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
Think it might be Camden NJ.

I'm going to the Valley Forge Gun Show in King of Prussia PA tomorrow.  I'll post up a review once I get back.
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junior varsity

#85
June 20, 2008, 02:14:45 PM
It was Baltimore.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/jun/10/number-2-with-a-bullet/?partner=yahoo_headlines

Quote1. Detroit: 2,286*

2. Memphis: 1,950

3. Baltimore: 1,631

4. Nashville: 1,509

5. Philadelphia: 1,475

6. Milwaukee: 1,403

7. Indianapolis: 1,234

8. Houston: 1,132

9. Boston: 1,155

10. Dallas: 1,069

* Number of violent crimes per 100,000 people.

Sinister

#86
June 20, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Smiling End on June 20, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
I'm going to the Valley Forge Gun Show in King of Prussia PA tomorrow.  I'll post up a review once I get back.

Gun shows are always an interesting "cultural" event. ;D
"...but without a smiley, some people might think that sentence makes you look like a homophobic, inbred prick. I'm mean, it might leave the impression that you're a  douchebag or a dickhead, or maybe you need to get your head out of your ass."  DrunkenMonkey

"...any government that thinks war is somehow fair and subject to rules like a baseball game probably should not get into one." - Marcus Luttrell

ducatiz

#87
June 20, 2008, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Sinister on June 20, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Gun shows are always an interesting "cultural" event. ;D

Where else can you find guns, ammo, knives, beef jerky, nazi memorabilia and knitting supplies under one roof?
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Sinister

#88
June 20, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 20, 2008, 02:45:48 PM
Where else can you find guns, ammo, knives, beef jerky, nazi memorabilia and knitting supplies under one roof?

Not to mention, information on building your own bomb shelter, surviving a nuclear blast, safely drinking your own urine, and great patterns for making camo clothes for baby.
"...but without a smiley, some people might think that sentence makes you look like a homophobic, inbred prick. I'm mean, it might leave the impression that you're a  douchebag or a dickhead, or maybe you need to get your head out of your ass."  DrunkenMonkey

"...any government that thinks war is somehow fair and subject to rules like a baseball game probably should not get into one." - Marcus Luttrell

ducatiz

#89
June 20, 2008, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Sinister on June 20, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Not to mention, information on building your own bomb shelter, surviving a nuclear blast, safely drinking your own urine, and great patterns for making camo clothes for baby.

what is unsafe about drinking urine?  tell me now!!
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
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