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Author Topic: Low sided 696, questions about damage  (Read 1293 times)
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« on: June 12, 2011, 09:00:41 AM »

I was practicing today in an empty parking lot and accidentally grabbed too much throttle. I wasn't sure why that happened, but it launched and I attempted to stop it as quickly as possible. There was some loose gravel ahead, the pavement was cold, my tires were cold, etc... and I had to get the bike stopped but ended up low-siding. Then as the bike came to a halt, I somehow came off the bike and flipped over the handlebars.

No serious injuries, just an impact bruise on my leg and my gloves touched the asphalt with some minor abrasion (Held Phantom kangaroo skin). I had on all my gear along with an Icon chest/back protector. I felt my chest hit some part of the bike as I flipped over and then my back was slowed down by the ground. My left Alpinestars Supertech R boots touched something really hot - I suspect the clutch side of the engine case. It melted/seared the leather (the same boot I was complaining that was getting scratched by the footpeg) a bit, causing it to be a tad hard and smooth in certain spots.

Other things that broke: Right footpeg - I am going to try using the passenger footpeg as a temporary replacement. Brake pedal bent, I had to bend it back from another low side and now it is bent even more. Brake lever bent with a LOT of play, I wonder if I need to use vise grips to fix the master cylinder assembly?

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My handlebar or steering is messed up. At full left lock, my handlebar controls are about 1/4" from the fairing intake vent. At full right lock, the handlebar controls go into the vent and as a matter of fact, during the crash it dented the vent. I notice the right handlebar being a tad lower. What are the chances the fork and front wheel is messed up, versus just the handlebar being twisted? The steering lock adjusters look normal, and I can see equal amounts of the "splines" and "dots" under the riser girdles.

Would a G2 tamer help with the throttle? My stock plastic throttle was ground down a little along with the stock rubber grip and handlebar cap, but I am not in a rush to replace them.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 09:34:03 AM »

you might have bent the steering stops on the frame or your bar is bent.
the steering stop if not broken you can adjust with a few turns on the bolts to even it out...
bent bar.. replace.

for the brake master cyl, go with a good cond. used one.

sounds like you got the others worked out.
what how many times you bend something back into place, eventually it will fail, and failing when you need it would suck

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 09:43:47 AM »

Firstly, you should fully examine the steering stops that are welded onto the head tube to determine whether you have bent, cracked, or broken them in any way. If you've done that, the insurance companies consider it a total loss. If they're fine chances are you just bent the bars. Forks don't usually bend in a minor drop.

Sounds to me like you panicked. How long have you been riding? A throttle tamer is one solution, and developing proper throttle control is another. Ducs have a touchy throttle and it sounds like you just haven't gotten used to it yet.

You should get somebody to check your bike out. Even with good photos there's no way anyone here can tell you for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 11:39:35 AM »

I can't reach the right steering stop because the starter controls will go into the right intake vent. The more I look at it, the more I think the handlebar is bent.

The only bike I have ridden after I passed the MSF BRC was this 696 and I've logged just over 40 miles - all in empty parking lots doing practice runs under 25 MPH. I checked my DDA readings and it showed I went 100% throttle for a split second, and I still don't know why/how I did it, I really need to twist it to get 100%. I ran out of room in the spot I was practicing and the rear kept sliding due to the loose gravel and cold tires/pavement. Hence why I have only been practicing so far and not on the road.

I bent the brake pedal and lever back into place and the pedal was really bent. I discovered Ducati didn't bother to install the O-ring and washer closest to the footrest bracket, so I added my own SS washer but no O-ring. I also found out that they didn't torque the pivot bolt or use threadlocker.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 11:53:50 AM »

Hmm I remember controlling throttle was an issue when I first learned to ride but I quickly realized it's far easier to modulate throttle by holding the grip with the section of your hand between your thumb and index finger. I NEVER wrap my palm around the grips (nor clasp my hands/fingers around it) - am I one of the few that ride like this?
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 12:07:20 PM »

I normally cover the front brake lever with the index and middle, then leave the ring and pinky on the throttle. I use the webbing of my hand between the index/thumb as well, but I don't know how I could have even gone close to 100%. I think it might have been a glitchy reading because I saw more throttle spikes when the engine wasn't even running. Maybe it is me but I felt the throttle is a bit too touchy and that I still need to control it better. The problem is my hand gets numb trying to fine tune it for low speed riding.
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