Hanging up the helmet

[El Matador]

I don't think so - but perhaps you and Lu could offer a 200-level course?  I can drop by as a guest speaker.



*kidding, kidding!

Cheers,
Adam

PFFFFT. We offer only advanced, graduate level Condescension courses

[DrDesmo]

PFFFFT. We offer only advanced, graduate level Condescension courses

That makes sense - for people like you.  

Cheers,
Adam

[thought]

That makes sense - for people like you.  

Cheers,
Adam

haha, the phrase "for people like you" added to the end of any sentence makes it the most condescending thing to say ever.

"hey man, your bike is amazing... for people like you"

"omg, that was the best sex ever... for people like you"

[polivo]

You are correct, nothing at msf is going to help keep ANYONE ALIVE. Simple fact, a motorcyclist is 36 times more likely to be involved in a FATAL motor vehicle accident compared to Car drivers . No educational course changes this.  Now, with that said. You could do some track days. Personally I find them INFINTELY more safe than day to day street commuting. 1. full leathers. 2. EMS , FIRE, track marshalls, rider coaches at all times. 3. NO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. NO BLIND CORNERS. You get the idea.  You may go down at the track.. but your not going to get run over by  a truck AFTER going down. Most times, when you go down at the track, the only thing thats hurt is your PRIDE and WALLET.    Youve probably made a very wise decision. Congrats on the new famliy.. thats all that really matters!

[hbliam]

You are correct, nothing at msf is going to help keep ANYONE ALIVE. Simple fact, a motorcyclist is 36 times more likely to be involved in a FATAL motor vehicle accident compared to Car drivers .

I disagree, and so did Professor Hurt. Any training, including the MSF, is going to help a new rider avoid some rookie mistakes. The moto vs car statistic is meaningless in this discussion without more data.

Findings from the Hurt report:

#2: Approximately one-fourth of these motorcycle accidents were single vehicle accidents involving the motorcycle colliding with the roadway or some fixed object in the environment.

#4: In the single vehicle accidents, motorcycle rider error was present as the accident precipitating factor in about two-thirds of the cases, with the typical error being a slide-out and fall due to overbraking or running wide on a curve due to excess speed or under-cornering.

#24: The motorcycle riders involved in accidents are essentially without training; 92% were self-taught or learned from family or friends. Motorcycle rider training experience reduces accident involvement and is related to reduced injuries in the event of accidents.

#28: Motorcycle riders in these accidents showed significant collision avoidance problems. Most riders would overbrake and skid the rear wheel, and underbrake the front wheel greatly reducing collision avoidance deceleration. The ability to countersteer and swerve was essentially absent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report

[Punx Clever]

1. full leathers.

I'm happy I gear up completely before pleasure rides.  Saved my skin 

[Bigbore4]

First, congrats!  It don't get no better than having kids and watching them grow up.

Now my .02 you prolly don't care about.  If you're hanging it up due to a close call, maybe you should rethink.  Take a break and by the time you get the ride back together have another go.  There is risk and close calls in all things.  If you ride defensively and with decent gear, have at it, it's all about managing the risk.

If on the other hand it just doesn't feel right, then it's time to take a long break.  You cant make good decisions and manage the risk if your head aint in it.  That would definitely be time to step back and have a good think, off the bike.

FWIW I made significant changes to my riding and other behavior when I found out I was gonna be a dad.  But I didn't hang it up.  I stayed in the sport and today both of my sons are avid riders.

[DrDesmo]

haha, the phrase "for people like you" added to the end of any sentence makes it the most condescending thing to say ever.

"hey man, your bike is amazing... for people like you"

"omg, that was the best sex ever... for people like you"

Thanks.  Kind of surprised you picked up on that.

Cheers,
Adam

[Triple J]

+ whatever it is up to now on the track bike.   I sometimes consider giving up street riding...mainly due to our shit weather though, as I have more miles in the rain than not, and I also rarely get to moto commute anymore due to daycare duty.

I think I'll always have a track bike though...WAY more fun than street riding IMO. You might even consider amateur racing with your local club.  

Glad you're OK. 

[thought]

Thanks.  Kind of surprised you picked up on that.

Cheers,
Adam

haha, damn, you're good at this.

[El Matador]

That makes sense - for people like you.  

Cheers,
Adam

Aaaaw, such a quaint little saying isn't it?

[rideserotta]

Aaaaw, such a quaint little saying isn't it?

Quaint saying... for people like you. 

[DrDesmo]

haha, damn, you're good at this.

From most people, I would consider that a compliment.

Cheers,
Adam

[ducpainter]

topic....

[jerryz]

Personally hanging up my Helemt for even a year would be like being castrated , actually if i was to die on my bike may family would be very sad but they would be financially much better off  and secure , and they would know that daddy died doing something he loved , thats might be a comforting thought as I go out with my boots on ,
my wife would rather i was a happy rider than a depressed grumpy old sod but i am 53 so may be thats true ,

I helps that  my wife and 2 of my daughters including the 12 yr old ride bikes as well so they know the joy and the risks.

But whatever works for each individual and gives you happiness .