Ducatisti Killed in Denver, Driver runs, later turns self in

[Triple J]

I am always telling folks that I wish every car/truck driver had to ride nothing but a motorcycle for at least six months in traffic before they every get in a cage. It would change the world. I don't know about the rest of you but all the lessons I have learned from 47 years of motorcycle riding apply every single time I get behind the wheel of a car or pick up. I'm certainly not Mr. Wonderful behind the wheel but I think I'm better than most other drivers. Riding a bike (without a street crash) all those years has made me a safer and more considerate driver. I drive a car like no one sees me and everyone is out to kill me... just like on a bike. Just saying.

+1

[DRKWNG]

Yep. The biker is largely to blame here also. Don't forget it happened at night with lots of lights to distract the SUV driver. Not that he's blameless and leaving the scene is criminal, period. However, it's just nuts to go speeding up a business district road at night.

At night, with lots of distracting lights?  I realize that the metadata on the camera footage shows that it was taken at 8:50 pm but there was plenty of ambient natural light to see what was going on.  That doesn't appear to be an altered histogram in the footage, so I'd say it's safe to assume the SUV driver could/would have seen the biker had/if he been sober and paying attention.

[kopfjäger]

At night, with lots of distracting lights?  I realize that the metadata on the camera footage shows that it was taken at 8:50 pm but there was plenty of ambient natural light to see what was going on.  That doesn't appear to be an altered histogram in the footage, so I'd say it's safe to assume the SUV driver could/would have seen the biker had/if he been sober and paying attention.

Denver

Rise: 5:36 AM  Set: 8:32 PM

[DRKWNG]

Denver

Rise: 5:36 AM  Set: 8:32 PM

Fair enough, but I'll still stand bye what I said. The video doesn't appear saturated in the way it would if it histogram had been altered. You've seen raw day-time eo fmv feed, right? 

[kopfjäger]

Fair enough, but I'll still stand bye what I said. The video doesn't appear saturated in the way it would if it histogram had been altered. You've seen raw day-time eo fmv feed, right? 

Yes, but video cams pick up more light at dusk, than can be seen with the naked eye.

[DRKWNG]

During dusk, sure.  Not so much at night; you know, when it's dark?   

Regardless, there was more than enough ambient light available for the Jeep driver to see the biker coming.

[Vindingo]

During dusk, sure.  Not so much at night; you know, when it's dark?   

Regardless, there was more than enough ambient light available for the Jeep driver to see the biker coming.

I disagree with that a bit.  There are times when I find it harder to see things at dusk than at night.  At night there is more contrast to see a head light.  It could be my bad eyes, but I find it that period right after the sun sets while it is still light out to be a pretty dangerous time to drive.   

[motolocopat]

Tragic and my thoughts and prayers to the young man from Iraq who was here living the American Dream and riding at a quick pace through crowded streets.
He was traveling a good 45 when he hit the SUV after skiding his tires for 60-80 feet.
Running that fast you should at least know that no one is on your 6 and that you can do a lane change like RIGHT NOW


Should the idiot have pulled in front of him, of course not
Are idiots going to pull in front of you  like this on a motorcycle... or car for that matter... of course... nearly EVERY WEEK if you ride a good bit

Sadly his preparation for this might have centered around the Arabic phrase of en shallah (not sure of the spelling) Been to Iraq twice and I can tell you there are not many if any Fast Motorcycles there so he likely had little experience as well