ECU to gauge connections

Started by suzyj, July 09, 2011, 06:55:31 PM

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suzyj

Hi guys,

Just wondering what the Body 9 and body 13 pins on the ECU do.  They're connected to pins 18 and 8 of the gauges, but otherwise go nowhere else...

Cheers,

Suzy


2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

J5

the wiring diagram for my s4 says

Body9 tach out
Body13 warn lamp

maybe thats the ecu fault light ?

i remember seeing in the past when researching gauge clusters that someone changed their gauges and they had a pinout diagram of the gauge connector

there will prob be some more info on the subject if you have a search around
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

suzyj

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Thanks for that.  It confirms my suspicions that there's nothing magical about the comms between the ECU and gauges - all you need to do is give the gauges a tach signal, and they're happy.  I guess the CEL light drive is optional.

Here's what I have so far, from scouring the wiring diagrams of the 695, S2R 800, S2R 1000, 999, & 998.

Although each connector has 38 pins, only 20 from each are actually used (at least on those ducs that I checked).  This is cool, because it means that the ultra-weird connectors used for the ECU can be replaced with much more manageable ones.  My preference at the moment is 2 x 23 pin Ampseal connectors.

Alas there's more to be driven and sensed than pins available on a standard microsquirt.

The wiring colous are from the 695 diagram - I didn't check whether the wiring colours for other models are the same.


Body Colour Function

1 R/Bk Solenoid drive - active low.

4 R/B +12V from fuse 4 - 5A ECU power.

6 Bn/Bk Injector relay coil - active low.

7 O/B Keylock - to pin 15 of gauges.

8 Gr/Bk Headlight relay coil - active low.

9 G Tach out - to pin 18 of gauges

11 Bk/B O2 sensor - pin 4 - heat

13 B/Y Warning lamp out - to pin 8 of gauges

14 G/Bk Fan drive - fan on when grounded (999 only)

16 O/W Diagnostic connector pin 3

17 R/G Keysense - Switched +12V - on when keyswitch is in on position

20 R/W MPXCAN+ (999 only)

22 Lb O2 sensor pin 1

24 Gr/G Hall speed sensor pin 2, Gauges pin 17

27 W/B Engine stop switch - +12V when ign is on and stop switch is on.

28 R/O Starter button - pulled to ground when button pressed

29 R/Bk MPXCAN- (999)

32 G/B O2 sensor pin 2

33 B/W Clutch switch - pulls to ground

38 W/R Side stand switch pin 2 - pulls to ground



Engine Colour Function

3 O TPS pot pin C - drive

5 W Oil temp sensor pin 1

9 W Idle stepper C

10 Gr/G Vertical coil drive

13 Gr/Bk Air temp/pres sensor pin 4

14 Gr/R Air temp/pres sensor pin 2

17 LB Idle stepper A

18 Gr Idle stepper D

19 V Idle stepper B

20 Bk/G TPS pot pin A - sensor ground

22 Bn/R Air temp/pres sensor pin 3 - sensor supply

23 Y/G Neutral switch - pulls to ground

25 sc.1B Crank sensor

28 P/Y Horizontal injector - active low

29 Bk/V Sensor Ground - output from ECU

32 Bn/G TPS pot pin B - wiper

34 field Crank sensor shield

35 sc.1A Crank sensor

37 G/Y Vertical injector - active low

38 Gr/B Horizontal coil drive



2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

caperix

Is microsquirt fuel only or does it do fuel  ignition like the MS2 board?  Im guessing your looking to run the bike on a microsquirt ECU?  I would not worry to much about the pin outs of the factory ECU compaired to what the MS board has available as they use different methods for determining fuel demand.  I think there was someone who ran a 907ie on megasquirt on the msruns board awhile back.  Other than the crank sensor setup & the maps everything else should be the same for the install.