New vs. S*R Monster design, two years later

[Kopfjäger]

Ok, They destroyed the trellis frame with that abomination, then they completely make the beast with two backsed up the already pos plastic tank with those stupid looking vents.  The headlight......well that's self explanatory. The DSS on the girls bike looks like something from a Jap (sorry Asian) bike. All in all it's just wrong, but I digress.  There are some nice examples of the bike on this forum. 

[stopintime]

The transforming potential of the older bikes is better.

The nicely modded new bikes are looking much better than I thought they could,
but the most successfully modified old bikes are, IMO, art.

With a classic light, Corse skins and an aftermarket trellis subframe - not much more to ask for.

[Travman]

well... pureness wise. The original superbike frame Monster is as pure as it gets. BUT the worst handling
The watercooled... while exceptional powerwise... too cluttered to be the clean pure monster
The MH900e-like S*R swingarms... too gimicky and I'm pretty sure as a result of the failure of the 999 DSS
The plastic tanks...  a decent idea that went horribly wrong with this damn foodfuel
The new monster... especially the 696, closer to the original with updates for modern style, but yes too much plastic for the true nakedness just needed a few changes.

Dude, it's time to fix that headlight already.  You've been saying you are going to fix it for a year now.  Modify those brackets and bring that headlight in about 8 inches closer to the forks.  Nice bike. 

[techno]

In response to the topic...... as an S2R owner I am hanging on to that one rather than upgrading.
I prefer the SSS and have never had a problem with the plastic tank (other than the fact it doesn't hold enough fuel).

But I can see the beauty in any Monster. Thats the best thing about Monsters compared to many other bikes. We don't feel the need to upgrade every time a new model comes out and we can enjoy the classic looks without feeling our bikes are outdated.

[Goat_Herder]

I think the Monsters are like fine wine - it gets better with age.  The "classic" monster has been a huge success since it's inception.  People have grown acustom to it and loved it.  The "new" monster had a deep hill to climb from the get go from the "classic" fans, but it also has gotten better with age.  Having a new generation of enthusists with passion for the "new" monster helps, too.

[hillbillypolack]

I'll start with the S*R Monster, (not an older Monster) with it's hideous SSS and piece of shit plastic tank (which by reading the tank thread, is an ongoing, never ending problem), the beginning of the end. 

Kopf-
   I don't often agree with you, but this is spot on.

Love the aesthetics, hate the plastic POS tank and deformation issues.

[ducatiz]

Kopf-
   I don't often agree with you, but this is spot on.

Love the aesthetics, hate the plastic POS tank and deformation issues.

I'm the same.  The oldest bike I owned before was a '95 SS.  Wasn't as much into the other bikes and the S2R is what got me to buy a new bike.

[hillbillypolack]

I'm the same.  The oldest bike I owned before was a '95 SS.  Wasn't as much into the other bikes and the S2R is what got me to buy a new bike.

And you know what?

The reason I'm selling that S2R is for the plastic tank.  If not telling owners about a fuel related issue and word-of-mouth fixing is how Ducati deals with this issue, I'm out.  Probably my last Ducati as far as I can see.

We now know where Ducati's money is going.  Not into R&D, but to a nice competitive young gent named VR.

Sorry to sideline the original topic.

[mitt]

[Pedro-bot]

And you know what?

The reason I'm selling that S2R is for the plastic tank.  If not telling owners about a fuel related issue and word-of-mouth fixing is how Ducati deals with this issue, I'm out.  Probably my last Ducati as far as I can see.

We now know where Ducati's money is going.  Not into R&D, but to a nice competitive young gent named VR.

Sorry to sideline the original topic.

Fueling is not the issue. E10 in U.S. fuel is the reason for the tank issue.
Not all of the plastic tanks have had problems.

[mitt]

Fueling is not the issue. E10 in U.S. fuel is the reason for the tank issue.
Not all of the plastic tanks have had problems.

E10 has been around longer than most of the members on the DMF have been alive, and the US is the largest sales market for Ducati in the world, it is reasonable to think they should have figured out the compatibility issues sooner than this.

mitt

[MAXdB]

you should add a poll to this thread..

i definitely think the new monsters have potential and look nice in their own way.. but i prefer the older style monsters

[ducatiz]

E10 has been around longer than most of the members on the DMF have been alive, and the US is the largest sales market for Ducati in the world, it is reasonable to think they should have figured out the compatibility issues sooner than this.

mitt

Bear in mind that our friends in Cupertino and Bologna have never publicly agreed nor admitted that there is an ethanol or moisture issue for the tanks.

[ducatiz]

what a lovely bike.. :-)

[hillbillypolack]

Bear in mind that our friends in Cupertino and Bologna have never publicly agreed nor admitted that there is an ethanol or moisture issue for the tanks.

I understand.  But there's a difference between 'admitting' and 'solving the problem'.  The Company has done neither and it's been an issue for how long?  (You would be better informed to answer that query). 

Run a transportation company, eventually you have to man up and say you screwed the pooch.  Otherwise your reputation will eat you alive.

I wonder what sales are like this year for DNA.