New vs. S*R Monster design, two years later

[ducatiz]

I understand.  But there's a difference between 'admitting' and 'solving the problem'.  The Company has done neither and it's been an issue for how long?  (You would be better informed to answer that query). 

Run a transportation company, eventually you have to man up and say you screwed the pooch.  Otherwise your reputation will eat you alive.

I wonder what sales are like this year for DNA.

I don't know what their plans are for this problem.  I know that they are still replacing tanks without any letup.  Maybe their plan is to keep replacing tanks until everyone gets a new tank and coats it.  I really don't know. 

Sales are pretty good, considering the economy.  They hit a couple of home runs with the new MTS and the Diavel.  Both have sold well.

[Pedro-bot]

E10 has been around longer than most of the members on the DMF have been alive, and the US is the largest sales market for Ducati in the world, it is reasonable to think they should have figured out the compatibility issues sooner than this.

mitt

This is true, E10 has been around for sometime now.
So have cars, computers, solar panels and computer chips.....

The use of ethanol as a fuel mixture grew exponentially in the U.S. in the 2000's.
How many plastic tanks did Ducati make prior to 2005?

[DukeDenver]

Dude, it's time to fix that headlight already.  You've been saying you are going to fix it for a year now.  Modify those brackets and bring that headlight in about 8 inches closer to the forks.  Nice bike. 

Agree, bikes starting to look sharp but that headlight ruins it.  I know you are waiting for some home made fairing for it or something of that sort but perhaps you should of waited on that headlight mod until you were ready to add the fairing    Everytime I see that bike the light stands out like a swore thumb.

Still a sweet ride, and im sure you are quiet sick of people razzing you over the headlight issue, perhaps as sick as we are of seeing it    its like a hot chick sticking her thumb out trying to hitch a ride   

[mitt]

This is true, E10 has been around for sometime now.
So have cars, computers, solar panels and computer chips.....

The use of ethanol as a fuel mixture grew exponentially in the U.S. in the 2000's.
How many plastic tanks did Ducati make prior to 2005?

Ducati doesn't make plastic tanks - they sell them.  The makers of plastic tanks have been doing it a long time though.  I really don't want to hijack this thread into another 10* page tank thread, so I will leave it at that. 

mitt

[Pedro-bot]

Ducati doesn't make plastic tanks - they sell them.  The makers of plastic tanks have been doing it a long time though.  I really don't want to hijack this thread into another 10* page tank thread, so I will leave it at that. 

mitt

agreed....
sorry for the thread jack

[ducatiz]

Bear in mind, folks, Ducati no longer sells Acerbis tanks on current model bikes... One wonders why..

[arai_speed]

It all comes down to preference - some people on here would give their left nut for Celli's bike and all I see is an abomination!

Same goes for the new vs. old Monsters.  I personally like both, I have seen some new Monsters that look banging!  Below are two great lookking old and new. 





Given a choice I would take the old as I like that bike that better - it calls to me - from the moment I laid eyes on her I knew she was the one. 

[Howie]

E10 has been around longer than most of the members on the DMF have been alive, and the US is the largest sales market for Ducati in the world, it is reasonable to think they should have figured out the compatibility issues sooner than this.

mitt

Though this is true it used to be called gasohol and was an optional fuel, not the only fuel available in some areas.  Many manufacturers would not warranty damage from gasohol  and stated so.  How do I know this?  From repairing vehicles that suffered alcohol poisoning, some requiring replacement of fuel tank, fuel pump, injectors, etc.  Yep, I was fixing motor vehicles before many of you were born.

[ute]

To me the new bikes are ugly ...ugly then ugly now

If I were buying today I would not buy a "new" Monster , I would buy a Thruxton

The S*R were the best looking bikes , befitting the name Monster ............guttural...... visceral ....ICONIC

[The Bacon Junkie]

Guess if I like the old style or new...

'nuff said... 




 

[sugarcrook]

The new Monster style has grown on me, but initially I thought it looked like smashed ass.  I'd have a new M1100 if any of the dealers in my area were decent.

[thought]

Bear in mind, folks, Ducati no longer sells Acerbis tanks on current model bikes... One wonders why..

so the new tanks on the bikes are non acerbis?  does this mean 2011+ monsters wont have expansion issues?

[ducatiz]

so the new tanks on the bikes are non acerbis?  does this mean 2011+ monsters wont have expansion issues?

The Diavel has a metal tank.  I don't know about the new Multi.  The new Monsters do not have a PA6 tank, FWIR

[xcaptainxbloodx]

The Diavel has a metal tank.  I don't know about the new Multi.  The new Monsters do not have a PA6 tank, FWIR

the diavel has a steel (or carbon) "skin" that hides a gas tank in much the same way the hypers, new monsters and new multi's do. ive seen Acerbis on new tanks fairly often too.


back on topic;

I prefer the older style to the new one.

my least favorite is the new one;
  I dont like the aesthetics of the chubby little trellis with a cast subframe, the cast swingarm, the headlight, the digital gauges, the tank vents or the seat.  I dont like the tanks skins over a bladder or the way the airbox is placed into the tank, the fact that I need  3 allen wrenches and ~20 minutes to get to the battery. I dont like the way the seat shoves your crotch into the tank  (or really any of the ergonomics of the new one).  I dont like the way the exhaust routs (in any of the iterations, though the 1100evo definitely comes closest).  I dont like the direct rear shock (compared to the linkage type) I dont like how few previous gen parts will work on the new ones.

I DO like the ABS and the power the 1100evo makes (even if it does vibrate more and sound like someone got bored in Bologna and cored the exhaust)


the S2R is my favorite. I think the S4R is too much power for the bike to handle well and the water cooled engine is too busy for a naked bike.  I like the single sided swingarm once its not that horrible "frosted" clear coat they use on all aluminum for some stupid reason and the shotgun exhaust really shows off the nice 5 spoke rims (I constantly have people checking out my bike, pointing at the wheels and saying "those arent stock, right?").

Its definetly not perfect though, the footpeg mounting system is stupid and makes finding rearsets unnecessarily difficult,the headlight U bracket is convoluted and dumb. tail chop is absolutely necessary (when isnt it though).  the 800 motor is underpowered and not worth spending the money to build. non adjustable forks are a joke. it needs better brakes and master cylinders....

 but I suppose thats also part of what I enjoy so much with ALL monsters, theyre a blank slate for the owner to do what they want with.

[ducatiz]

the diavel has a steel (or carbon) "skin" that hides a gas tank in much the same way the hypers, new monsters and new multi's do. ive seen Acerbis on new tanks fairly often too.

i meant new model designs.  the gas tank on the diavel is steel with a skin.  the point is that it's steel, not PA6/nylon.