Oil level issues and bike is now on the side of the road

[deepak8612]

OK.. got a call from coleman (actually i had to chase them down). The following is their diagnosis:

1. Nothing wrong with oil level (of course) -- but i think they may have topped it off because im dead sure it was low.
2. Battery not holding a charge and needs to be replaced (thought this might be the case)
3. Charging system (ie: stator etc is fine) -- good news
4. Bike, when it warms up, idles at 900rpm which apparenly is low () and can not sustain enough amperage to charge the battery and hence the battery issues. This apparently can be fixed with some "tuning". <<======== I need some input on this. Is this something I can check and work on myself?
5. Apparently nothing wrong with the fluid in the clutch system -- although Im pretty sure Im gonna replace this.

Thoughts. I'm just going to do this myself. Doesnt seem like anything that I need to shell out $400 for right? Thats the quote from the shop

[Slide Panda]

900 is below spec.  It should be closer to 1200 - but 900 isnt going to kill the bike in the grand scheme. 

But at that rpm the charging system might not be doing everything to keep the bike running and thus you're slowly draining the battery.  If the batt is a dud or dying then you will eventually hit a point where the bike wont stay running at that lower idle. It'd probably keep going with more throttle, like if you had used the throttle advance, but would eventually crap out. Probably next time it was stopped, it would not start again... So yeah a crappy battery with low idle could drain out the battery very slowly.

So you'll need to adjust the idle up a tad and fit a new battery.

[Howie]

Since the bike is already there I would let them bump up the idle.

[ducatiz]

Have Rafael go over the bike, if he's still there.

[extra330]

$400 to adjust the idle and install a new battery? That sounds crazy even if they going to install an AGM battery that's high.. Are they including some other service items in that price?

Mike

[deepak8612]

$400 to adjust the idle and install a new battery? That sounds crazy even if they going to install an AGM battery that's high.. Are they including some other service items in that price?

Mike

Agreed on that. if i remember correctly, one hour labor =$100, battery=$100. Dont really know where the other $200 is coming from. Gonna be asking here in a minute.

Have Rafael go over the bike, if he's still there.

Rafael is the guy handling the bike. About to get on the phone with him in a few minutes.

900 is below spec.  It should be closer to 1200 - but 900 isnt going to kill the bike in the grand scheme.  

But at that rpm the charging system might not be doing everything to keep the bike running and thus you're slowly draining the battery.  If the batt is a dud or dying then you will eventually hit a point where the bike wont stay running at that lower idle. It'd probably keep going with more throttle, like if you had used the throttle advance, but would eventually crap out. Probably next time it was stopped, it would not start again... So yeah a crappy battery with low idle could drain out the battery very slowly.

So you'll need to adjust the idle up a tad and fit a new battery.

I can fit the battery, flush clutch and brake system myself. I'm sure there is a battery thread on this forum somewhere. But can someone suggest a quality battery, or will any 12V from autozone do the trick?

Also, Do you think it would be easier to let Rafael get the idle adjustment done? I'm sure there is a throttle stop screw somewhere on the bike, just not sure where. Dont know if he would stop with that (if thats the case, I could prob do that myself too) or check a few other things as well.

Thanks for the input

[deepak8612]

$400 to adjust the idle and install a new battery? That sounds crazy even if they going to install an AGM battery that's high.. Are they including some other service items in that price?

Mike

$400 = $99 (1hr labor to "tune") + $99 (1 hr to diagnose the issue) + $150 (parts and labor for battery install) + tax

This is a little ridiculous, anyone else agree?

[ducatiz]

Agreed on that. if i remember correctly, one hour labor =$100, battery=$100. Dont really know where the other $200 is coming from. Gonna be asking here in a minute.

Colemans' has a $200 Assrape Charge on all invoices for work.

[The Mad King Pepe']

I can fit the battery, flush clutch and brake system myself. I'm sure there is a battery thread on this forum somewhere. But can someone suggest a quality battery, or will any 12V from autozone do the trick?

You can get a lead battery from "Batteries Plus", they have shops all over the area. I would suggest a Shorai (or something similar) tho, because you can lose 7/8 lbs off the stock one.