Bike hasn't been run for more than 6 months

Started by 620dark, August 01, 2011, 04:57:24 PM

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620dark

My bike has been sitting in a garage for over ahlf a year, this wasn't planned so no prep work ahs been done.

What should I do to get her back to road worthyness....or start for that matter!

I have changed the battery as this was overdue and have done a spot of Googe'in and established that what fuel is in the tank no doubt has water in it by now and should be drained and replaced? along with the spark plugs??

It turns on, dials spin round, sounds like the fuel pump starts up and then ticks over but fails to start.

Suggestions?
The only way to predict the future is to invent it.

2-Skinny

If you got new battery and drain fuel and put fresh gas- start it, see how it runs and go from there...
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

620dark

Ok so I have lifted the tank and found the following:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa52/afakhori/gastankfairing005.jpg

but how do I actually get what is left of the fuel out??  I have checked the manual, FAQ's and Google but cant find instructions on how to actually get any remaining fuel out the tank??
The only way to predict the future is to invent it.

battlecry

I use a cheap siphon.

You can also turn the tank upside down.

Slide Panda

Go to your local auto/moto shop and pick up a (hand) fuel pump. Just pump it out into a can. You can't really drain it via the hookups on the bottom.

Plugs are probably fine - but they are cheap so it's no big loss if you replace them.

Other things to plan on - once it fires.
- An oil change
- Some Sea Foam/BG 44k/Techron for the next couple tanks of gas
- While you're doing maintenance work, a flush of the brakes and clutch can't hurt.
- Ensure your tires are aired up and don't have flat spots from sitting.
- Clean the chain and lube the chain. Inspect if for kinks or frozen links.

-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

620dark

Ok so I have spent the last day looking for the screw to drain the fuel in the float bowls........still cant find it...Help.
The only way to predict the future is to invent it.

Howie

Look on the right side towards the rear of the engine.  You will see two plastic tubes.  Those tubes attach to the float drains.  Follow them up to the carbs.  You will see a screw with (I think) an 8mm hex head where each tube attaches to the carbs.  Loosen these a turn or two and the float bowls will drain.

[bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] You have a fuel injected bike, NO FLOAT BOWLS [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]

Slide Panda

To prevent Howie from hurting himself - it's always a good idea to mention the year and model of the bike... Your forum name is a good hint (ahem) but not everyone looks at that.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Howie

Quote from: Sad Panda on August 03, 2011, 06:06:29 AM
To prevent Howie from hurting himself - it's always a good idea to mention the year and model of the bike... Your forum name is a good hint (ahem) but not everyone looks at that.

Besides 620dark's name the initial post mentions some key words, like "dials spin" and "sounds like the fuel pump starts up".  That is the cause of the head banging.  620dark is innocent.

620dark

#9
I'm glad we are all agreed that I'm not at fault  [thumbsup]

On a scale of 1-10 of mechanical handiness I would be somewhere around a 1 with the right guidance....

Sooo I have injectors and no bowls!?  I assume that I would have crap fuel in the injectors?  So do I need to take the return fuel line off and the pump will pump the crap fuel into a bucket?

So would a few litres of fresh fuel and a jump from my car to be enough to dilute the crap fuel and get it started??

The fuel light is on so there isn't much there at the moment
The only way to predict the future is to invent it.

battlecry

Er, Howie doesn't think you will find it on a machine with fuel injection like the 620. 

Howie

Change the filter, put fresh gas in it, maybe add some Sea Foam or Techron (not too much, follow the directions), pray to the motorcycle gods, then  [Dolph].  Chances are the injectors are fine and there is no way for you to flush them.

battlecry

Howie, if they do not clean well with Techron, I've read the injectors can be shipped to cleaning stations that use special fluids and ultrasound.  Apparently it is big business with diesels, and reasonably priced. 

Slide Panda

The stuff I list is about a 1 maybe a 2 on the tech scale. Now removing the injectors goes up a few notches.

If you jump the bike be sure the car is NOT running. A running auto will provide more juice than you need and can cause damage. An auto battery in a non running auto will provide plenty of power to turn over a bike.

Drain as much old gas as you can. Add some detergent agent (the Sea Foam or Techron) add some new gas and give it a whirl. It'll probably fire up pretty quickly.

I resurrected a Yamaha and a honda that had been sitting way longer with a fresh battery and some new gas. Didn't even drain the old stuff. Now they ran like poo at first... but the sit wasn't a death sentence by a long shot.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Howie

Quote from: battlecry on August 04, 2011, 06:17:00 AM
Howie, if they do not clean well with Techron, I've read the injectors can be shipped to cleaning stations that use special fluids and ultrasound.  Apparently it is big business with diesels, and reasonably priced. 

Yes you can, but I would get it running first.  More than likely the injectors are fine since they are not open to the atmosphere and protected by the filter