Another Exhaust Removal Question

Started by NorDog, August 06, 2011, 10:57:57 AM

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NorDog

The Termi headers on my bike need to come off for a cleaning and a fresh coating.

What do you use to remove/install those springs?  The first one down from the rear exhaust port looks particularly hard to get to.
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DucRS

Are you sticking to red or opting for black on those headers? The red is quite unique and looks good.

As for the springs, Its definitely a PITA to remove but when working on my RS I just use a pair of new grippy needle-nose pliers and lots of patience.
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zarn02

I've also removed and installed exhaust springs with needle nose pliers, but that tool looks way easier.

Also, while you're doing it you can say "Bring me Peter Pan!" in a pirate voice.
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NorDog

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NorDog

Quote from: DucRS on August 06, 2011, 11:30:58 AM
Are you sticking to red or opting for black on those headers? The red is quite unique and looks good.

As for the springs, Its definitely a PITA to remove but when working on my RS I just use a pair of new grippy needle-nose pliers and lots of patience.

I am tempted to go with a flat black, but I really like the red.  Don't know which will win out.
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NorDog

Quote from: Speeddog on August 06, 2011, 11:54:43 AM
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Okay, so I removed all the Termi parts except the rear header piece that actually bolts to the exhaust port.

I cannot get it out.  I read somewhere to have someone sit on the bike to compress the suspension.  I'm working alone, so I ran a ratcheting tie down strap through the rear wheel and frame.  I jacked that thing down as far as possible.

No dice.

The header ain't coming out.

Shoud I remove the shock/tie rod?

If so, how do I unload the tension on that beast?

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Norris
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Raux

put a jack stand under the motor or bike lift. or you can hang the rear end.

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How about removing the front motor mount bolt and rotating the motor forward a little?
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DucRS

Stop!!
  I recently came across this problem myself. It is true a person could sit on the bike and compress the shock and make room for you to squeeze the pipe on but that person would have to be in the range of 300+.
  I found it quite easy to compress this way:

1 Place bike on rear stand.
2 Use two winch type tie downs one on each side as shown in pic. One hook on frame and one hook on rear stand.
3 Slowly winch each side evenly till its accessible.

Good luck!







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Speeddog

IIRC, It's a particular suspension position that allows the pipe to come off the studs.

Try compressing it an inch, see if it'll come out.

If not, go down another inch.
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NorDog

Quote from: DucRS on August 05, 2012, 09:19:00 AM
Stop!!
 I recently came across this problem myself. It is true a person could sit on the bike and compress the shock and make room for you to squeeze the pipe on but that person would have to be in the range of 300+.
 I found it quite easy to compress this way:

1 Place bike on rear stand.
2 Use two winch type tie downs one on each side as shown in pic. One hook on frame and one hook on rear stand.
3 Slowly winch each side evenly till its accessible.

Good luck!


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Thanks, but I already tried this (or a modified version of it).

No luck.  At no point in the travel of the swing arm does the ball  joint on the tie rod allow enough clearance.  One of the front exhaust studs backed all the way out with the nut, so I'm wondering if perhaps some of these studs may have backed out a bit too.

I still think removing the rear shock/rocker/tie rod would be the best approach right now.

Tilting the engine forward?  Is that a real suggestion?  Can't tell if it's serious or I'm being had.

Any more tips are appreciated.

Also, do I understand correctly that simply getting the weight of the rear wheel will unload the rear shock enough for removal?

Norris
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Speeddog

Yes, getting the weight off the rear wheel is all that is needed.

Remove the top bolt from the pushrod.
This will let you drop the wheel, raising the front of the rocker, and letting you get the pushrod out of the way.
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NorDog

Sweet.

Thanks Nick.

Can I bring the piece by your place next weekend for some blasting?
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Speeddog

Quote from: NorDog on August 05, 2012, 06:21:59 PM
Sweet.

Thanks Nick.

Can I bring the piece by your place next weekend for some blasting?

No prob, swing by.
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