Steve Jobs

[Drjones]

But I guess in your eyes anyone that has started a business and hired employees is a philanthropist?

That analogy can definitely be made on a philisophical level above the reality level that most (or at least those with the most impact) philanthropist's (in the more narrow definition of giving money away) are business owners.  They're creating something that either never existed (enables new/better techniques), that is better than the last (improves efficiency) or competes with the same (reduces cost).  They're also providing an avenue for purpose/self worth for others via employment.  They also through the normal course of business operation are transferring their knowledge and capabilities to others.  They're also the root the base for wealth generation without which philanthropy in the narrow definition of giving away money wouldn't exist.

So yes, business owners are philanthropists.

[Mother]

I thought this thread was for mourning and paying respect to a public figure. 
If you don't think he is worth your time to do so, why post?

Death, grief, sadness, or any emotion that shows vulnerability

make some folks uncomfortable

If they can find a reason to scorn the dead

Be angry at them

Or

Even hate them

They supplant the discomfort

[The Bearded Duc]

I thought this thread was for mourning and paying respect to a public figure.  
If you don't think he is worth your time to do so, why post?

I didn't know this thread was solely for mourning, its title is Steve Jobs.


I just think it's funny how there's a thread about Steve Jobs and not a thread about Derrick Bell, a man who made extraordinary accomplishments in his own field as well as other fields and who also dedicated his time and life, not money, to the betterment of humanity and how we interact with other people not electronic devices.

By the way, he also died on October 5th, 2011 but somehow was overshadowed.

[The Bearded Duc]

Death, grief, sadness, or any emotion that shows vulnerability

make some folks uncomfortable

If they can find a reason to scorn the dead

Be angry at them

Or

Even hate them

They supplant the discomfort

Making assumptions on how people handle emotions is based on conjecture.

Or maybe the need to let other people know you're better than them.

[il d00d]

Duc750, if you could just let us know how appropriately sad or not sad someone should be in this situation, maybe everyone could just shoot for that.  Work out the sadness math, and let us know how much would be rational amount of sadness to be felt in this situation.  Quantify the emotional, subjective experience for us, if you don't mind.

[somegirl]

I didn't know this thread was solely for mourning, its title is Steve Jobs.


I just think it's funny how there's a thread about Steve Jobs and not a thread about Derrick Bell, a man who made extraordinary accomplishments in his own field as well as other fields and who also dedicated his time and life, not money, to the betterment of humanity and how we interact with other people not electronic devices.

By the way, he also died on October 5th, 2011 but somehow was overshadowed.

Nobody is stopping you from starting a thread of your own, as far as I know.

[TiNi]

Again, this is silly.
The pencil is a great invention, the mechanical pencil made it better. Does that make the person who invented it a philanthropist or give any reason to call them a great humanitarian or say that without them we'd all still be mashing up plants and painting on walls?

why is what "I" said silly?  i said nothing about him being a philanthropist... i was trying to explain to you that people actually use apple products to do their jobs... but you don't want to hear that... i'm done in this thread.

RIP Steve Jobs

[Speedbag]

My butt itches.

Is that bad?

[Vindingo]

My butt itches.

Is that bad?

I think you need to go out and buy an Ipod.   

(then take a shower) 

[ducpainter]

I didn't know this thread was solely for mourning, its title is Steve Jobs.


I just think it's funny how there's a thread about Steve Jobs and not a thread about Derrick Bell, a man who made extraordinary accomplishments in his own field as well as other fields and who also dedicated his time and life, not money, to the betterment of humanity and how we interact with other people not electronic devices.

By the way, he also died on October 5th, 2011 but somehow was overshadowed.

So...

start one.

I mean here you are dissing the guy because no one started a thread about your personal hero?

[Speedbag]

I think you need to go out and buy an Ipod.   

(then take a shower) 

With the iPod?

I'm so confused....

[pitbull]

I see duc750's point to a large degree. It wasn't over the top on this forum, but on fb and a couple other places, you would thing SJ was Jesus 2.0

below sums up my feelings in regards to those apple and SJ cult followers.

Calling the death a “tragic loss” and saying he was “truly devastated by the news,” self-described Apple product loyalist Eric Cavanaugh is treating the passing of the company's former CEO Steve Jobs as if his make the beast with two backsing dad just died, sources confirmed Thursday. “I can't believe it,” said Cavanaugh, 28, wearing a saddened expression that would make you think he was mourning the loss of his 61-year-old father, Jack, and not a complete goddamn stranger. “He meant a lot to me, and I'll miss him. I think I might send an e-mail to rememberingsteve@apple.com [instead of contacting the man he hasn't talked to in a month who helped him with his homework, paid his college tuition, and has supported him throughout his entire life, loving him unconditionally despite his myriad make the beast with two backsups].” At press time, Cavanaugh reportedly needs to get his make the beast with two backsing priorities straight.

[Mother]

Making assumptions on how people handle emotions is based on conjecture.

Or maybe the need to let other people know you're better than them.

It's what I do

[DRKWNG]

Let's go ahead and close this one down before it gets any worse, shall we?

[Randimus Maximus]

Let's go ahead and close this one down before it gets any worse, shall we?

I see no need for that.

There's only one person posting in this thread taking it in that direction.