It rusted after the first rain...

Started by godudi, October 09, 2011, 06:19:39 AM

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godudi

Please take a look at the outer plates of the chain in the attached picture, they got rusted after the first rain. Is this normal? How do I get rid of that rust?

My bike (M1100 EVO) is quite new and the chain is always clean and lubed between the roller and bushings. I never spray the lubricant over the outside part of the chain because the dealer told me that this is not necessary.

Please advise,

David


hillbillypolack

Kinda normal.  It happens, but if you'd rather have a rust free chain run, get a BRASS brush and it won't attack the metal, just remove the rust.  I'm not certain if they make a chain brush (like you see with three in a channel-orientation) in brass. 

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Buckethead

Quote from: godudi on October 09, 2011, 06:19:39 AMI never spray the lubricant over the outside part of the chain because the dealer told me that this is not necessary.

It's not.

But it will prevent (or at least delay) this kind of thing.
Quote from: Jester on April 11, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
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thought

my 796 chain rusted up like that when it first got wet too... but then for some odd reason it stopped rusting up so much later on.  in between i cleaned it a couple of times with a degreaser and lubed it pretty regularly too.  now i've ridden in the rain and have put it away wet without any rust forming after.

also, how close are you to salt sources?  sea or snow salt etc?  that could be making it rust up a bit faster.
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Howie

You want a light protective coat of chain lube on the side plates.  Steel will rust on contact with water if not coated with something,  The rust might come off with the lube if not too deep.  If you decide to use a brass brush be careful of the O rings.

Roaduser

i keep a nice protective coating of black muck on the outside of my chain!  ;D some things can be too clean. if i were you just use chain lube on the whole of the chain like others have said. cost to effectiveness ratio should be favourable enough.

godudi

Quote from: Roaduser on October 09, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
i keep a nice protective coating of black muck on the outside of my chain!  ;D some things can be too clean. if i were you just use chain lube on the whole of the chain like others have said. cost to effectiveness ratio should be favourable enough.

This is not about cost reduction at all. I just followed the dealer and the chain manufacturer instructions. Both said to apply lub to the inner part of the chain (roller and bushing)..and now my chain is rusted, just because I was working by the book..

the following link is the maintenance instructions from Regina website:

http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_maintenance/how_to03.shtml

Buckethead

Dude, seriously, I don't understand how the hell you managed to lube <just> the rollers and not get at least SOME chain lube on the side plates. Or did you actively clean it off the side plates afterward?

Quote from: godudi on October 10, 2011, 06:20:10 AM
and now my chain is rusted, just because I was working by the book..

And it will continue to grow MORE rust until you somehow remove the rust that's on there and do something to prevent it from coming back.
Quote from: Jester on April 11, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
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Monsterlover

I hose the whole chain down with Maxima wax and then wipe the whole thing down with a rag.

Leaves a film everywhere and the lube stays down in the orings & rollers

No rust on my chains.
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godudi

Quote from: Buckethead on October 10, 2011, 06:30:29 AM

And it will continue to grow MORE rust until you somehow remove the rust that's on there and do something to prevent it from coming back.

I already removed it with WD-40, a rag, and a brass brush (on the outer plates only) and then I sprayed some oil, but now the plates have some grey dots where the rust grew..

I guess I will now have to wait and see if the rust stop from regrowing...

DarkStaR

Quote from: godudi on October 10, 2011, 06:20:10 AM
This is not about cost reduction at all. I just followed the dealer and the chain manufacturer instructions. Both said to apply lub to the inner part of the chain (roller and bushing)..and now my chain is rusted, just because I was working by the book..

the following link is the maintenance instructions from Regina website:

http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_maintenance/how_to03.shtml


FYI: DID Chains instructs to lubricate the entire chain.

Regina Chains screwed you on that one too.

Artful

There are few problems that can't be cured with more lube. This is not an exception to that rule.
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He Man

easy way to avoid this is to buy a colored chain. the colored ones have an nodized coating and dont rust. (at the side plates atleast)

Slide Panda

godudi - roll down to a Lowes or similar and find some of the Dupont Multi Use Teflon spray, there's also a version of it for chains that they came out with last year
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-saver/

Make sure you chain is clean then give the whole thing a spray with it. Hit the side plates as part of it - you don't need to be laser precise. Having a coating of just about any sort of oil or lube on the side plates will protect them from oxidation. I recommend that Dupont stuff as it dries to a wax like consistency and won't fling off, leaving your chain well protected for quite a while.

As with any chain, regular doses of the stuff are needed to maximize the chain life. Every 300 or so miles is a recommendation I heard and follow. Using that as a rough guide and the Dupont stuff I had a chain that was in service a long while and looked way better than folks much newer chains who used oils or more goopy lubes.
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