has anyone installed the DUCATI Electronic shifter

Started by punta, June 20, 2008, 07:53:48 AM

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punta

i am having a DP electronic shiter installed on my 08 S4RS testastretta
aparently allows for full throttled cluchless up changes  [evil]
i am curious as to how it will improve the ride and acceleration
DUCATI SERVICE people say it will be great ...
any thoughts
PUNTA

vwboomer

On a race bike it would be great. On a street bike pretty useless and unnecessary.
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punta

Quote from: vwboomer on June 20, 2008, 09:54:57 AM
On a race bike it would be great. On a street bike pretty useless and unnecessary.

just to put it back out there.... [thumbsup]
is this shifter designed only to work under full throttle when changing???
i am told it is like any other quickshifter and cuts the spark to the engine momentary when the presure switch picks up the rides movement on the lever just before he engages gear.
can anyone tell me if they have riden with one??either on a Duc or Jap bike
is it limited or designed to operate only under full throttle??
so far i am told you can still use the clutch but will just have the option there to go clutchless
if it is limited to only full throttle i can see it is soomewhat of a waste as the oputunity to use it will of course be limited, as driving around the steets on one wheel would draw a bit too much attention..
on the other hand if it can be used through a full range of throttle controls, it would prove to be a fun even in some situations a safe feature.
i am going back to DUCATI to ask this also, but until monday, i am keen to find out..

He Man

+1 but i aint got the balls and skills to downshift without the clutch. I have atleast 1 finger on it when i downshift unless im pretty high up in the revs, then its my whole hand.
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natg

Quote from: He Man on June 20, 2008, 05:34:54 PM
+1 but i aint got the balls and skills to downshift without the clutch. I have atleast 1 finger on it when i downshift unless im pretty high up in the revs, then its my whole hand.

Guys, i think what he is asking is weather the electrinic quick shifter can be engaged at any rev to change up gears. Or will it only switch over at a set rev limit.

punta

Quote from: natg on June 20, 2008, 08:30:37 PM

Guys, i think what he is asking is weather the electrinic quick shifter can be engaged at any rev to change up gears. Or will it only switch over at a set rev limit.

..obviously this guy can read i would direct people back to the SUBJECT header **Re: has anyone installed the DUCATI Electronic shifter**
all coments appriciated however i would prefer any input from people who have had experience with this as we can all guess how it would go and common sence says it is designed for racing, i think we all can
perform clutchless changes if we know our bikes, thats not t say it is doing them a world of good even at the correct rev range, nothing beats the products designed to do that very thing,
it would seem that i just have to wait until Monday and ask Ducati Service.

NAKID

I don't think it is sophisticated enough to limit you to only clutchless shifting only during full throttle...
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MotoPsycho

To answer the question. No. They do not limit you to full throttle shifts. Anytime the pressure switch detects movement it's going to do its job. However, you could have saved youself a little money and went to Gp shifting. All of the gears are down instead of up. Pre-load the shifter a little bit and when you blip the throttle just a tiny bit, it'll go right into the next gear. I've been like that for a few years and I wouldn't have it any other way, and you don't run the risk of slipping the clutch too much - causing it to get too hot.
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punta

Quote from: GRUBBY on June 21, 2008, 09:32:02 AM
To answer the question. No. They do not limit you to full throttle shifts. Anytime the pressure switch detects movement it's going to do its job. However, you could have saved youself a little money and went to Gp shifting. All of the gears are down instead of up. Pre-load the shifter a little bit and when you blip the throttle just a tiny bit, it'll go right into the next gear. I've been like that for a few years and I wouldn't have it any other way, and you don't run the risk of slipping the clutch too much - causing it to get too hot.

cheers
thought it may be the case, gp shifting hey is there much involved with that, any dificulty with preloading when you are really giving it a good squirt, or is allvery smooth.

BastrdHK

I have done about 700mi with GP shifting now, and it is definitely an acquired skill.  I have to practice a lot to retrain the brain and make the synchronized blip/shift smooth.  I am not confident enough to do it at full throttle through the gears yet, but when you get it right it is very nice 8)
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MotoPsycho

Quote from: punta on June 22, 2008, 04:56:52 AM
cheers
thought it may be the case, gp shifting hey is there much involved with that, any dificulty with preloading when you are really giving it a good squirt, or is allvery smooth.

I think it's smooth, but that's my opinion. On a track I do have just a touch of trouble in between 3rd and 4th, but I traced it down to the shifter bolt being a little loose.

I don't know how hard it is to convert the newer bikes over because the way the clutch slave sits on there, but on mine all I had to do was flip the shifter arm on the trans output shaft (opposite end of the link rod from the shift lever you move with your foot) upside down and that's it. It WILL take a few days to get used to it so be warned. Makes it harder for people to steal/move a bike too unless they know how it works.
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punta

gday just picked up my bike, after having a electronic shifter installed,
couldnt be more happy with it, very easy to use, works ideal at all rev levels but it loves the to be hit just before the limiter cuts in wilst still under heavy throttle
nice feeling knowing its not doing the gears any harm, still have full use of clutch lever if i choose not to go clutchless,
gives me more time to concerntrate on hanging on and of whats in front of me, real happy with it would definitley recommend it....
punta

NAKID

Quote from: GRUBBY on June 22, 2008, 10:21:50 PM
I think it's smooth, but that's my opinion. On a track I do have just a touch of trouble in between 3rd and 4th, but I traced it down to the shifter bolt being a little loose.

I don't know how hard it is to convert the newer bikes over because the way the clutch slave sits on there, but on mine all I had to do was flip the shifter arm on the trans output shaft (opposite end of the link rod from the shift lever you move with your foot) upside down and that's it. It WILL take a few days to get used to it so be warned. Makes it harder for people to steal/move a bike too unless they know how it works.

I flipped on my S2R, then just went with a GP style reverse shifter. The linkage gets taken completely off, an arm is mounted directly to the shaft...
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MotoPsycho

Is the throw of the new shifter about the same as with the ther one ? I thought about doing that too, but I like the travel my setup has now. I haven't seen anybody actually have one until now and it's starting to sound even better if it works as good.
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vwboomer

There's less travel with the lever since there's less linkage slop. I find myself getting more false neutrals than I ever did with the traditional pattern and linkage, and I'm not sure why. Either it's so easy to shift that I dont put enough effort into it, or it's something else. Usually on the 4-5 shift. Seems as though the lever travel necessary changes sometimes but that doesn't make sense.
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