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Massimo Bordi Returns (Designer of the 4-valve Ducati)

Started by Travman, October 21, 2011, 05:32:45 PM

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October 21, 2011, 05:32:45 PM Last Edit: October 21, 2011, 06:00:51 PM by Travman
The man who embodied and designed much of what Ducati is today returns to motorcycles as the new vice president of MV Agusta.

Read more: http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_1110_massimo_bordi_returns/viewall.html#ixzz1bSxoWOL1

I enjoyed the part about his conflict within the company with Taglioni which I had never heard before.  He was very complimentary of Tamburini though.  It sounds like they had a good working relationship. Also, I don't know that we knew MV was going make a 675cc and an 800cc triple Brutale.  I think we only knew about the 675 version.

zarn02

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October 21, 2011, 06:48:09 PM
Interesting read, that was.
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Curmudgeon

#2
October 21, 2011, 06:57:57 PM

Interesting. Maybe ~ 85% true. Eraldo Ferracci could confirm but won't. ;) Also Fred Hoess who was sales manager for Cagiva during the 851/888 period.

Thanks for digging this up!

For those who don't know Eraldo. http://www.ferracci.com/about/about.php
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thought

#3
October 21, 2011, 08:13:57 PM
hmm... this makes me even more interested in mv's...

the f3 really is my current "i will have it someday" bike.  my only worry about mv's is the reliability and parts, if not i would have def ordered one already.
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'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

ducatiz

#4
October 21, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: Curmudgeon on October 21, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
Interesting. Maybe ~ 85% true. Eraldo Ferracci could confirm but won't. ;) Also Fred Hoess who was sales manager for Cagiva during the 851/888 period.

Thanks for digging this up!

For those who don't know Eraldo. http://www.ferracci.com/about/about.php

william, could you photocopy your brain for me?  K thanks.
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Curmudgeon

#5
October 21, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 21, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
william, could you photocopy your brain for me?  K thanks.

:)

My brain is Swiss cheese these days. It's Eraldo's brain you want. Drive up there and take him to lunch at his favorite Italian restaurant. Besides having a great time, by the third bottle of Chianti, you'll have all you want. ;)
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ducatiz

#6
October 21, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Curmudgeon on October 21, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
:)

My brain is Swiss cheese these days. It's Eraldo's brain you want. Drive up there and take him to lunch at his favorite Italian restaurant. Besides having a great time, by the third bottle of Chianti, you'll have all you want. ;)

Him too, but it's tidbits like Fred Hoess being at Cagiva.. he's still living in NJ too, Netcong?
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Curmudgeon

#7
October 21, 2011, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 21, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
Him too, but it's tidbits like Fred Hoess being at Cagiva.. he's still living in NJ too, Netcong?

Closer to Stanhope near one of those little lake communities in the woods. Fred was at Cagiva for ~ 4 years and his office was only ten minutes from mine in Fairfield. In 1996 I signed him up for Camel Trophy Trials at his request. When he made the team, the Pres of Cagiva, NA let him go because they wouldn't give him 2 1/2 weeks vacation to do the event in Borneo. Due in no small way to Fred, Team U.S.A. finished 2nd overall. He's been racing and freelancing since but finally decided that he wanted a "day job" again, but one which would allow him to race. Recently he took over the East Coast for Husqvarna and has been working his backside off. I'll have to give him a call. He invited me to his table at some big shindig in NYC on 9/10 where all the notables from 9/11 were present. I try not to go north of Quantico anymore if I can help it.  ;)

Fred is a cheap date. Take him out to dinner too. Very humble, nice guy, unless you happen to be racing against him..., in which case you may just become the berm.  ;)
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Travman

#8
October 23, 2011, 11:01:12 AM
Quote from: Curmudgeon on October 21, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
Interesting. Maybe ~ 85% true. Eraldo Ferracci could confirm but won't. ;) Also Fred Hoess who was sales manager for Cagiva during the 851/888 period.

Thanks for digging this up!

For those who don't know Eraldo. http://www.ferracci.com/about/about.php
Which parts didn't sound right? 

Curmudgeon

#9
October 23, 2011, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Travman on October 23, 2011, 11:01:12 AM
Which parts didn't sound right? 

If you believe that article, Bordi invented the Internet too.  :) Ask yourself whether Bordi's design was used because it was better..., or quicker/cheaper to develop than than the Dr. Ing. T and Ferarri L-4.

Go up to PA with Izaak and several bottles and ask Eraldo whether Bordi walks on water. Ask him whether Bordi single-handedly saved Ducati. You'll get another biased view. Then average the two views and you'll probably be closer to reality. (And you'll also find out who else was involved with those designs and decisions. And the 888 was whose idea?  ;))
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ducpainter

#10
October 23, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: Curmudgeon on October 23, 2011, 03:51:19 PM
If you believe that article, Bordi invented the Internet too.  :) Ask yourself whether Bordi's design was used because it was better..., or quicker/cheaper to develop than than the Dr. Ing. T and Ferarri L-4.

Go up to PA with Izaak and several bottles and ask Eraldo whether Bordi walks on water. Ask him whether Bordi single-handedly saved Ducati. You'll get another biased view. Then average the two views and you'll probably be closer to reality. (And you'll also find out who else was involved with those designs and decisions. And the 888 was whose idea?  ;))
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#11
October 23, 2011, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 23, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Would Bruce know?

Sorry. Who is Bruce? I only knew Reno, Eraldo and Jimmy A. during that period.
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