Follow us as we build a Monster

Started by setha, December 01, 2011, 04:32:40 PM

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setha

Last week my wife and I bought an assortment of monsters. I am going to post the progress here as we learn all about reassembling a Monster. So here is the run down, we where looking for a winter project and my wife has always been a Monster lover from afar, so with a bit of craigslist hunting we found the perfect way to keep busy over the winter and get a Monster built and colored just the way we want it. This is a rough list of what we got:

2001 Monster black
-Was a front end wreck that took out the frame at the neck, the forks, front rim and other odds and ends.
-Motor (600cc) is undamaged and it has a complete wiring harness(minus an ignigter box :( ), good rear rim and swing arm, and a good seat and slightly dinged tank.
-Clear title.

2000 monster black
-Was a front end wreck as well.
-Was mostly disassembled before we got it. Bad frame and front rim. Is missing a large portion of the wiring harness.
-Has a clean looking motor, we have no idea what size!!
-Clear title

2002 Monster frame.
-It has a salvage cert.
-We have looked it over and it looks straight but it is different from the other two frames so we will be hoping to swap it or sell it for a frame that will fit our available parts.

So that's the list of parts. We plan on assembling a monster with custom paint and The best of the parts we have. What ever we need above and beyond that we will be hunting down here and on ebay. We are open to any ideas and advice anyone out there has too offer to our build and since this is our first ducati I think we will have alot of questions for any one that is willing to take the time to answer them. So to start figuring out what works and what doesn't I took the good ignition to a locksmith today to have a key made made so I can give the motor in the 2001 a quick crank but with out two igniter boxes I can't try to run it. I have looked them up on ebay and they are expensive, I read about a digital programmable ignition module that eliminates the igniter boxes, anyone have thoughts or advice on hunting down an igniter box or a digital module?

Here is a picture of everything before we unloaded the trailer!

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teddy037.3

good luck with the build!  [beer]

I can only wish that I had the space/time/ability for something like this

118811

Quote from: teddy037.3 on December 01, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
good luck with the build!  [beer]

I can only wish that I had the space/time/ability for something like this

Me Too!!! [bang] [clap]
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Would love to see the progress... Isn`t this not something more for the Mods part of this forum??? Nevertheless good luck, I am sure something nice will come forth.  [thumbsup]
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Slide Panda

regarding the 2002 frame - though someone with more detailed knowledge than me, will hopefully add, you might want to look there as a platform.

Biggest differences will be the rear suspension - the older ones used a more complicated shock->rocker->hoop-> swing arm set up. Newer, just mounted the shock to the frame and swingarm more directly. Other changes were the steering head tube diameter. I'm not sure when they changed that over, but 2000 does have a smaller one. I'm not really sure what it would take to change from one size to another, or if it's practically possible - this is where someone like Speeddog or Duc-Stew needs to chime in.

Oh and the engine mount size changed. Later on it used a bigger threaded rod. Easier to mount a newer engine in an older frame than vice versa

But, don't get rid of the 2002 stuff too soon.

You should be able to figure out the engine size via the VIN number
http://www.mad-ducati.com/Technical/VINInfo.html
Once you translate the various parts of the VIN it should have the engine code that you'd just need to track down.

If you're planning to stick wit Carbs  - you can obtain new igniters from one of our sponsors - probably ca-cycleworks

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stickbow

I think I saw this deal on craigslist actually, even emailed the guy but the parts I needed didnt survive. Good luck with the build, and dont forget pictures.

setha

Quote from: 118811 on December 02, 2011, 01:20:58 AM
Me Too!!! [bang] [clap]
The space is a blessing and a curse, I find myself dragging things home some times just because I have the space!

Quote from: ducej on December 02, 2011, 07:26:11 AM
Would love to see the progress... Isn`t this not something more for the Mods part of this forum??? Nevertheless good luck, I am sure something nice will come forth.  [thumbsup]

I kind of guessed on what section to start the thread on. I will try to keep my questions very technical  ;D

Sad panda I had the 2000 frame on the bench with the 2002 frame and I can say that the air boxes and the swing arms that I have will not fit fit in the 02' frame with out some chopping. also the front tank latch is different. I am leaning towards finding a year appropriate frame to use the parts I have on hand and keep the custom fab to a minimum.

I did pick up my ignition switch from the locksmith today, $79 with two keys, I thought that was a fair deal. I hope to plug it in by Sun afternoon and see how happens, I hope to atleast turn the motor over.

Quote from: stickbow on December 02, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
I think I saw this deal on craigslist actually, even emailed the guy but the parts I needed didnt survive. Good luck with the build, and dont forget pictures.
Thank you and I will post more pictures as the project moves along.
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Quote from: ducatiz on December 02, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
Frankenmonster is coming

Just looking at the trailer with the parts, you can't help but have a sinister laugh...

AdmiralKit

Having torn a '00 750 down to the frame and rebuilt it and planning on doing something similar to a '94 M900, feel free to shoot me a message if you've got questions.  Sounds like you've got a great project going and best of luck to you!

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setha

FRANENMONSTER [thumbsup] i LOVE IT!

Sadpanda I checked out the the link you put up about the vin decoding then found this one http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-wisdom/27112-ducati-vins-decoded.html
It has a bit more info. So here is the complication...bum bum bum....dramatic pause.... the the vin on the 01' says it was built with an air cooled twin but the motor that is in it is an air/oil cooled twin. I did a bit of googling and have not found a way to use the numbers stamped on the motors to identify them.

Here is a picture of whats in the 2001...




Here are a few pictures of the motor out of the 2000.....




Is there any one out there that can tell me alittle something by these pictures?

P.S. AdmiralKit thanks for the offer, I might be taking you up on it when it's time to construct. Good luck on the M900.
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The '01 is a dry clutch 900.

The '00 looks like a wet clutch...which would make it a 750.

I don't think the 900 motors still had the oil jackets in the cylinders in '01.
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Speeddog

That engine that's in the '2001' is a 900, as ducpainter said.

It's definitely older, as it's carbureted and has the oil jackets on the cylinders.
It's the single phase charging system, I'd guess '98 or '99.

Make sure the motor mount bosses on the engine aren't cracked or broken, that bike took a big hit on the front.
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