Replacement plastic tank

Started by uclabiker06, February 25, 2012, 06:55:15 PM

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DucNaked

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Curmudgeon

Quote from: uclabiker06 on February 26, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Wow, this sucks.  Well is the Casewell coating process difficult?  Also where the hex do you get non ethonal fuel from anyways???  Seems like a great idea IF you can find somewhere to store it.  Once you get a new tank Ducati is going to be off the hook in terms of liability so only in your dreams will they pay for any labor down the road.  Feel kind of ripped off in a way.  If I knew this when i originally purchased my bike I would have had much more barganing power for the sticker price to be lowered. Seems like it will really lower the resale price.

I don't ride that often. What about draining the left over fuel after every ride?

Less condensation if the tank is full. Pure gas here: http://pure-gas.org/

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uclabiker06

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What about Bruce Meyers? Dang, wish there was some ethonal free gas closer to home.  Looks like the ones in Ca are all up north. [bang]
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Too much (within reason) octane became an issue with oxygenated fuel, particularly E10.  Before that, you were merely throwing money away.
Carbon is a problem with E10 because ethanol does not atomize as well as gasoline.  The poorly atomized fuel resists burning and becomes carbon.  If my choice was between E10 87 AKI or pure gas 93, 93 it would be.

Nate, is my memory off or did Bruce also note a significant loss of HP running 93 in a superbike?

ducpainter

Quote from: Curmudgeon on February 26, 2012, 09:55:06 AM
Bruce who? I only know Eraldo and Larry and Reno.  ;)

BTW, my manual reads "Unleaded fuel with 95 fuel octane rating (at least)". That's 91 M+R/2, which is the minimum we used to recommend in all the Euro vehicles I sold. They at least have knock sensors which advance and retard the timing in milliseconds. I'm more comfortable with that. I also have on machine @ 10:1 with SAGEM EFi which loves a 50/50 mix of 98 and 93; more than that I agree adds nothing.

What's with the heads on the new 2V engines which are so efficient that they can run without twin spark and meet Euro 3 and still run 11:1+? Suggests a different chamber design?
You're funny. Eraldo?  Is he Geraldo Rivera's brother? [laugh]

I understand what your manual says. It's said the same thing for the last 15 years and it's still wrong.

That's exactly the difference. Chamber design. You notice the new big 2v is no longer a dual spark.

It doesn't need all the octane the book says either. ;D
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Curmudgeon

Quote from: ducpainter on February 26, 2012, 12:27:14 PM
You're funny. Eraldo?  Is he Geraldo Rivera's brother? [laugh]

I understand what your manual says. It's said the same thing for the last 15 years and it's still wrong.

That's exactly the difference. Chamber design. You notice the new big 2v is no longer a dual spark.

It doesn't need all the octane the book says either. ;D
The Eraldo who set up my 851 and whose bikes then won WSBK titles a couple of times. Eraldo made lovely jewelry and son, Larry, was hot with a laptop. http://www.ferracci.com/about/about.php

If you say so. Might actually be needed now. Things change. My muffler has no soot BTW.

Since there are ~ 140 fuel blends mandated by the bureaucrats, I've no idea what your blends for summer and winter are like in New England but it's not easy to generalize. I'll wager Central VA is a lot different. In NJ over decades I've observed ugly chemical deposits on valves and in heads, and numerous multiple misfire codes from clients' vehicles running 89 where 91 - 92 was specified, (M+R/2). That was on Porsches, Benzes and Land Rovers. In NJ, 93 from premium brands was usually cleaner than 87 or 89 as well. Your mileage may vary... Always best to buy fuel from high volume/turnover premium brand stations and not when they are getting a delivery!  [roll]

You did convince me to try some 89 in my Bonneville because I have a little soot in the muffler since disabling the air injection on my T-100, this with now 7,000 miles.  ;D The manufacturer also specs "87 AKI or higher".
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ducpainter

Quote from: Curmudgeon on February 26, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
The Eraldo who set up my 851 and whose bikes then won WSBK titles a couple of times. Eraldo made lovely jewelry and son, Larry, was hot with a laptop. http://www.ferracci.com/about/about.php

If you say so. Might actually be needed now. Things change. My muffler has no soot BTW.

Since there are ~ 140 fuel blends mandated by the bureaucrats, I've no idea what your blends for summer and winter are like in New England but it's not easy to generalize. I'll wager Central VA is a lot different. In NJ over decades I've observed ugly chemical deposits on valves and in heads, and numerous multiple misfire codes from clients' vehicles running 89 where 91 - 92 was specified, (M+R/2). That was on Porsches, Benzes and Land Rovers. In NJ, 93 from premium brands was usually cleaner than 87 or 89 as well. Your mileage may vary... Always best to buy fuel from high volume/turnover premium brand stations and not when they are getting a delivery!  [roll]

You did convince me to try some 89 in my Bonneville because I have a little soot in the muffler since disabling the air injection on my T-100, this with now 7,000 miles.  ;D The manufacturer also specs "87 AKI or higher".
I know who Eraldo is.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."