Registering out of state bike with CA

Started by lucky_duck, March 16, 2012, 11:38:27 AM

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lucky_duck

Recently bought a 2006 S2R1000 out of state and started the California registration process yesterday.  Once I started it I realized I might have just run into a problem.  You see, the previous owner has taken all the frame stickers off, i.e. the emissions control info, the manufactured by info, vehicle emissions control label, etc...you get the point.  I payed all the fee's and got the temporary registration yesterday, but now before they can give me a years long registration I need to bring the bike in so they can visually inspect the bike and the frame labels.  Don't know if it matters but the bike has 9200-ish miles with full titanium Arrow exhaust.  My question; What do I do now???       
Current Love:
2006 S2R1000

Old Flames:
2003 Ducati Monster 620 ie Dark
2002 Suzuki Marauder 800 (long gone, thank god)
1995 Honda CBR 600 F3
1984 Kawasaki KX80

lucky_duck

I think I may have just found an answer to my question... [coffee] 
If this is correct then it shouldn't matter that all the labels on the frame are gone...or at least that's what I'm thinking

The damage comes if you are already a CA resident.  The reason is that the DMV defines a "new" vehicle (car or motorcycle) as one with less than 7,500 miles on it.  So, to clarify, here are some scenarios... assume that buyer here already lives in California:

You are looking at a used motorcycle from Seattle.

-  Emissions

----- It's a 50-state emissions vehicle or was originally built to CA emissions specs.  For cars this is usually easy to find on a decal in the engine compartment... it can sometimes be more difficult to verify for motorcycles.  Typically, only some newer fuel-injected motorcycles (e.g. BMWs and Moto Guzzis) are built to 50-state specs.

        You are OK to register the bike in CA

----- It's not a CA-spec motorcycle.  In this case you'll need to pay attention to to the mileage.

        If the vehicle has fewer than 7,500 miles you are out of luck.

        If the vehicle has more than 7,500 miles on it you are home free.
Current Love:
2006 S2R1000

Old Flames:
2003 Ducati Monster 620 ie Dark
2002 Suzuki Marauder 800 (long gone, thank god)
1995 Honda CBR 600 F3
1984 Kawasaki KX80

ducatiz

Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

lucky_duck

Current Love:
2006 S2R1000

Old Flames:
2003 Ducati Monster 620 ie Dark
2002 Suzuki Marauder 800 (long gone, thank god)
1995 Honda CBR 600 F3
1984 Kawasaki KX80

Smokescreen

When I brought my 06 S2R1000 to California with 11K miles on it, they wouldn't register it, though ultimately, someone at the DMV accidentally filed the paper without having a good enough look at where it said it wasn't allowed yet, and so, mine was registered, and I never questioned it.  Best of luck, schmooze away!!!
Catching a yellow-jacket in your shirt at seventy miles per hour can double your vocabulary. 

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.

ducatiz

the 2006 models were all CA legal from day one.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Smokescreen

Didn't matter to the DMV...  The VIN may be on the head tube, but the lack of stickers hurt the feelings of the inspectors at the dmv
Catching a yellow-jacket in your shirt at seventy miles per hour can double your vocabulary. 

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.

ducatiz

Quote from: Smokescreen on March 22, 2012, 06:20:15 PM
Didn't matter to the DMV...  The VIN may be on the head tube, but the lack of stickers hurt the feelings of the inspectors at the dmv


In the old days, we could get the manufacturer to reprint them.  There is a part number for them in the catalogue.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Smokescreen

Well that's good information.  I would actually like to have new ones sent out.  I'd like to put them elsewhere on the chassis but it would be nice to apply new ones when the thing is powdercoated this winter.
Catching a yellow-jacket in your shirt at seventy miles per hour can double your vocabulary. 

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.

shamoo

I don't post often, but wanted to chime in.  I sold my Yamaha R6 to a California resident when I moved here.  It was registered in New Jersey (where I came from) and had about 4800 miles.  The 7500 mile "rule" worried both of us, but he advised me that he does everything through AAA.  They make the process pretty painless and plainly stated to us that the 7500 mile rule generally applies to cars.  Whether or not this is tue (and it's probably not) didn't matter as it worked out for us.  We also mentioned that I moved to CA and needed to register it.

All that we needed was the title and a bill of sale (which you can print out from almost anywhere).  Apparently CA doesn't even require you to have insurance to register a bike at AAA or the DMV.  This was news to me, because NJ is very strict with that.  One of the agents came out to verify the VIN number, mileage, and also the engine block number.  Make sure that is visible.

The new ower paid the tax and was issued a new CA title on the spot.  Very easy.  Also no smog tests for bikes in CA.

JDub713

Quote from: lucky_duck on March 16, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Recently bought a 2006 S2R1000 out of state and started the California registration process yesterday.  Once I started it I realized I might have just run into a problem.  You see, the previous owner has taken all the frame stickers off, i.e. the emissions control info, the manufactured by info, vehicle emissions control label, etc...you get the point.  I payed all the fee's and got the temporary registration yesterday, but now before they can give me a years long registration I need to bring the bike in so they can visually inspect the bike and the frame labels.  Don't know if it matters but the bike has 9200-ish miles with full titanium Arrow exhaust.  My question; What do I do now???       

To the OP: I has the same exact problem registering my Monster in California. I bought it from a dealer in Oregon, and the owner before took every single sticker off the bike that wasn't clear coated over. I have an '07 S2R800, and it had 1320 miles on it when I bought it last November. I went to the DMV, and the first thing they had me do was pay registration fees, and make an appointment for inspection. They wanted to match the VIN with the engine serial number. When they did this, they asked where the emissions label was, and I said it must have been removed. They told me the bike had to go through a CHP inspection point and get signed off. So I jumped through that hoop, not knowing what they were looking for (mind you my bike had a full Termi exhaust, and the charcoal canister and evap vent lines removed). Then I went back to the dealer and got the tags. It was a pain, 3-4 trips to the DMV and one to a CHP station, but they did register my bike after that.