S2R valve adjustment question

[K3V1N]

That is good to know. Thanks again. I called the dealer that just signed Ducati to see if they had a 7mm shim kit hoping I could get something to finish up tomorrow but they don't have any special tools or parts yet.

Anyone selling a 7mm shim measuring tool and some closer shims cheap? That can send it to me faster then EMSDUC:)

[K3V1N]

I wanted to leave 2 more helpful tip for anyone reading this before adjusting valves.

#1 always just order some half rings / keepers if you are placing an order. Every time I think I looked at them all close and whenever I haven't ordered extras I find a broken one and have to wait for such a cheap tiny part in the mail.javascript:void(0);

#2 Mike at http://emsduc.com/ is great, super helpful and gets parts out to you quick.

Hopefully my half rings will show up today and I can ride tomorrow.

[He Man]

i would of just gone to MBP collets instead.

[K3V1N]

Yeah, maybe next time, I just got the bike and liked the 14 bucks for the two I needed plus two backups for now. I think next time I will step it up with the MBP and both the real tools.

[WetDuc]

How did you rotate the cam to feel for binding on the closers if both opener rockers were not moved to the sides?  Just curious, I am doing valve adjustment on my 1000DS right now.

[K3V1N]

I was just working in it and put in a closer that was too tight and could feel the drag in that area of free play in the cam. By just turning it back and forth 45 degrees. I have a question for someone. Do you use a tool to hold the valve when the closer is off or just turn the motor so the piston is up on the side you are working on? I used to use rubber bands as backup on the 620 but there is less room it feels like with the DS.

[He Man]

i just turn the piston. Its easy to line it up if ur familar with it. Just make sure the piston is indeed up. I usually let the valve drop and dont botherholding it.

[WetDuc]

I use the piston to support the valves.  Just move it to TDC on the cyclinder being worked on. 
Without the piston for support, I was having a real hard time getting the half rings free from the closer/valve stem seat they were in.

Thx for the info about spinning the cams in just the 90degree-ish space that they do spin freely to test binding.  I was told the same by others and just wanted to confirm.

[K3V1N]

Big thanks to He Man on posting that trick to use a allen between the closing rocker and the cam is the greatest thing ever how come I haven't seen that till now. I can't tell you how maybe times I have wished I had 3 hands to be pushing, messing with the shim and trying to catch or place keepers.

Thanks again.

[K3V1N]

Well the valves and belts are set. All the openers are .005 except for the vert intake (.004). All the closers are around .0001 snug. I tensioned the belts with the 5mm / 6mm key then tried to use iAnalyzer to check the hz but I found it very hard to find a consistent reading. I tried a bunch of apps and techniques plucking. I will have to get a mic for my laptop and try that in a couple weeks.

I rode the bike into work today, 30 miles and it felt great. It was a little cool at 35 but the sun was out and the roads were dry.

Thanks again for all the help.

[DucNaked]

You shouldn't use the Allen key method to adjust belts on a DS. The cam tensioners are in different location and will give you incorrect tensions.

[K3V1N]

Hmm, that is good to know. It has to be pretty close since i measured them with the 5 and 6mm key before they came off so I don't think I did any damage. I will have to try and find a mic and use the laptop. Thank you for the post I will pull the covers and try again.

[DucNaked]

5 might be close on the vertical, but its crazy loose for the horizontal. I've seen them set sonically twice and I don't think a 1mm allen would fit for the horizontal. Had a chance to play around with them at a Duc maintenance seminar.

[WetDuc]

When I tensioned my belts on my DS, a 3mm allen key would fit when the iAnalyzer app showed the tension about right.  If you can fit a 5mm, your DS belts are definitely too loose and must have been loose before you started. 
The trick with the app is to hold your iPhone mic in the right spot near where the belt oscillates.  It works pretty good for me. 

[Armor]

You need to mount the mic solid and not moving.  Position it and use duc tape or something.  I found an easy app. for the computer that reads out a frequency.  Pm me if you need it.