removing magnet basket from flywheel?

Started by Privateer, March 28, 2012, 07:26:32 PM

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Privateer

well i know why it died and won't start or charge





I saw that and I didn't even bother checking the stator voltage.

Any point in even having the old stator inspected?

Any opinions on the rectifier based on that plug?
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Howie

That plug is ALWAYS the first thing to check when the bike isn't charging.  Chances are there is more burning going back to the stator.  You will need to cut back until you get to shiny, good copper.  At that point, check stator resistance for grounds and opens.  I don't know a real Ducati spec, but take your ohmmeter and check for resistance between all three wires.  No continuity means open circuit (bad stator).  You should have low, but equal resistance between all three wires Unequal (one or two lower) means a grounded stator winding.  I will check for a real Ducati spec later if I can.  Or maybe Speeddog or Brad Black or someone else will check in with a spec.  Did the regulator die?  Unless there are other signs of damage (smell, oozing) you will not know until you get the stator functioning.

Most folk replace the bad stator wire with heavier gauge wire and many eliminate that cheesy connector by soldering directly to prevent the problem in the future.  I like having a connector for ease of future diagnosis.  Do use a better connector and pack with dielectric grease.

Privateer

#17
i cut off the bunt plug and when I check ohms (switch at 200) between the 3 wires (a-b, b-c, a-c) I get -2.4 pretty much for each.

i'll admit I don't know if that's good or bad.  anyone?


And is there a specific kind of connector should I ask for at the local electronics shop or just any 3 pin deal?
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Howie

Quote from: Privateer on April 06, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
i cut off the bunt plug and when I check ohms (switch at 200) between the 3 wires (a-b, b-c, a-c) I get -2.4 pretty much for each.

i'll admit I don't know if that's good or bad.  anyone?

Sounds good, can't be sure though since I don't have a real spec.  I'll measure mine tomorrow if no one chimes in.

And is there a specific kind of connector should I ask for at the local electronics shop or just any 3 pin deal?

Any quality connector capable of handling 45 or more amps (16 gauge will do), preferably of weatherpack design.  Tyco Ampseal would be one.  Any auto parts store that deals with professionals should be able to help you out.


Privateer

Quote from: howie on April 06, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Any quality connector capable of handling 45 or more amps (16 gauge will do), preferably of weatherpack design.  Tyco Ampseal would be one.  Any auto parts store that deals with professionals should be able to help you out.

awesome, thank you.  I have a electrical supply place nearby that primarily caters to B2B that is staffed with mostly electronic nerds (and I mean that with the utmost respect) so I'll check in there with them.

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Speeddog

Check with Ford Electronics, IIRC they're in Buena Park or thereabouts.
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Privateer

ok, i give up, what's the trick to getting the magnet thing off the flywheel?

I'm about to push this make the beast with two backsing thing out into the street and hope someone steals it or runs it over.

any help, anyone?
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Speeddog

I don't completely understand your question.

Center nut will allow the complete flywheel assembly off of the crank.

There's a ring of 8-10 bolts attaching the magnet ring to the flywheel.
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Howley

Re: the throwout bearing, you should be able to get one from any bearing shop for a heap less than $55.

Privateer

Quote from: Speeddog on April 18, 2012, 09:55:25 PM
There's a ring of 8-10 bolts attaching the magnet ring to the flywheel.

sorry i was very frustrated last night.

it's those bolts holding the magnet ring on.  It seems like I need to hold the ring still with something but I can't find a tool to do so and my desmotimes book doesn't mention it.

When I turn the bolts, the whole things turns.
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Speeddog

Put the trans in 6th gear, have an assistant hold the brake, that should do it.
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Privateer

there's some kind of thread locker on those bolts?  I'm guessing based on the brand new torx socket I just destroyed.
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Privateer

Quote from: brad black on April 19, 2012, 04:12:48 PM
why are you removing that?

a trusted and respected source informed me the basket and the stator are a matched set and recommended replacing them together.


doesn't matter at this point, I can't get the bolts off.  I got one off then broke the socket.  all i've done to this bike the last month is spend money and not put a single mile on it.
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Privateer

You know you're in trouble when you try to take money out of your 'motorcycle account' at the bank and the ATM denies you for insufficient funds.

But, thanks to Nick I have my bike back and running.

Apparently the new-ish rectifier and stator both fried themselves in an epic battle to engulf my bike in flames.  He swapped in a working rectifier and replaced the stator i got from Stu and all is once again right with the world.


The added bonus of seeing joel and michelle while I was picking it up made the drive worthwhile.
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