MotoGP 2012 - Round 1 - Qatar (SPOILERS, race: 4/8)

[lazylightnin717]

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   332.6   1'55.960   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   328.8   1'56.174   0.214 / 0.214
3   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   332.2   1'56.648   0.688 / 0.474
4   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   328.2   1'56.671   0.711 / 0.023
5   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   339.0   1'56.678   0.718 / 0.007
6   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   331.6   1'56.697   0.737 / 0.019
7   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   336.9   1'56.782   0.822 / 0.085
8   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   330.5   1'56.814   0.854 / 0.032
9   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   332.4   1'57.197   1.237 / 0.383
10   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   337.0   1'57.274   1.314 / 0.077
11   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   334.0   1'57.523   1.563 / 0.249
12   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   334.1   1'57.668   1.708 / 0.145
13   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   317.1   1'58.801   2.841 / 1.133
14   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   310.9   1'58.945   2.985 / 0.144
15   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR-FTR   307.5   1'59.698   3.738 / 0.753
16   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   313.9   1'59.997   4.037 / 0.299
17   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   309.9   2'00.231   4.271 / 0.234
18   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   314.4   2'00.373   4.413 / 0.142
19   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   292.4   2'00.404   4.444 / 0.031
20   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR-FTR   305.9   2'00.787   4.827 / 0.383
21   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   303.1   2'02.112   6.152 / 1.325

[Jester]

Rossi needs to be ashamed of himself.  Retire or pick up the pace.  He's just sucking up all that money they paid him and wiping his ass with it.  Maybe he's pouting, no confidence, whatever.  There is no excuse for his performance.  Seeing where Hayden and Barbera are, he should be 2-4 tenths quicker by default and fighting for a podium.  Rossi is turning into a joke if he can't turn it around quickly.

You have to wonder if Preziosi will still listen to him when he's the backmarker carrot for CRT's.... and what will this do for the development of that bike. 

I guess we'll see what FP3 brings.  Maybe some miracle will happen.

[duccarlos]

You can't pull a miracle like that out of your ass. I think Nicky's time is deceiving. How many laps did Stoner complete? It seems he just goes out there for 5 laps and brings it in.

[Triple J]

Nicky's lap seems reasonable to me. 7th place...just like all of last year. Rossi is slower, but who knows why. Maybe he still has the hard tire on from yesterday! 

[derby]

Rossi is slower, but who knows why.

could still be running a testing program, but you're right, who knows?

[bdfinally]

Did Gresini (Bautista) get a "factory" honda this year?

[gm2]

Did Gresini (Bautista) get a "factory" honda this year?

yes.

pirro - no ;]

[gm2]

FP3 - Lorenzo, Crutchlow, Stoner.  Ben in 11th w/ a crash early on.

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2012/04/06/2012_qatar_motogp_fp3_result_lorenzo_tak.html


1.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    1m   55.302s   
2.    Cal Crutchlow    GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)    1m   55.456s   
3.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   55.674s   
4.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)    1m   55.905s   
5.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   56.114s   
6.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Pramac Racing (GP12)    1m   56.163s   
7.    Nicky Hayden    USA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   56.402s   
8.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   56.535s   
9.    Stefan Bradl    GER   LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V)    1m   56.751s   
10.    Alvaro Bautista    ESP   San Carlo Honda Gresini (RC213V)    1m   56.771s   
11.    Ben Spies    USA   Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    1m   57.030s   
12.    Karel Abraham    CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing (GP12)    1m   57.223s   
13.    Randy De Puniet    FRA   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   58.261s   
14.    Colin Edwards    USA   NGM Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT)    1m   58.310s   
15.    Michele Pirro    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini (FTR-Honda CRT)    1m   58.800s   
16.    Yonny Hernandez    COL   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    1m   59.087s   
17.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   59.169s   
18.    Danilo Petrucci    ITA   Came IodaRacing (Ioda-Aprilia CRT)    1m   59.517s   
19.    Ivan Silva    ESP   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    2m   0.035s   
20.    Mattia Pasini    ITA   Speed Master (ART CRT)    2m   0.226s   
21.    James Ellison    GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport (ART CRT)    2m   0.563s   

[swampduc]

looks like ben kept the same tires for all of fp1:

“We made our fastest lap when the tyre had dropped off with almost race distance on it."

So does that mean he's going to suck early in races again?

[Triple J]

Well, look at that. Ducs 6-8 at about 1 second off the pace.  Deja vu

[Jester]

Well, look at that. Ducs 6-8 at about 1 second off the pace.  Deja vu

Hector being Hector.  He latched onto Lorenzo's tail and followed him around a very early hot lap at the beginning of the session and never improved after that.

[derby]

So does that mean he's going to suck early in races again?

i'd say those two situations are unrelated.

[El Matador]

FP3 - Lorenzo, Crutchlow, Stoner.  Ben in 11th w/ a crash early on.

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2012/04/06/2012_qatar_motogp_fp3_result_lorenzo_tak.html


1.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    1m   55.302s   
2.    Cal Crutchlow    GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)    1m   55.456s   
3.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   55.674s   
4.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)    1m   55.905s   
5.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   56.114s   
6.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Pramac Racing (GP12)    1m   56.163s   
7.    Nicky Hayden    USA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   56.402s   
8.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   56.535s   
9.    Stefan Bradl    GER   LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V)    1m   56.751s   
10.    Alvaro Bautista    ESP   San Carlo Honda Gresini (RC213V)    1m   56.771s   
11.    Ben Spies    USA   Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    1m   57.030s   
12.    Karel Abraham    CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing (GP12)    1m   57.223s   
13.    Randy De Puniet    FRA   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   58.261s   
14.    Colin Edwards    USA   NGM Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT)    1m   58.310s   
15.    Michele Pirro    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini (FTR-Honda CRT)    1m   58.800s   
16.    Yonny Hernandez    COL   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    1m   59.087s   
17.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   59.169s   
18.    Danilo Petrucci    ITA   Came IodaRacing (Ioda-Aprilia CRT)    1m   59.517s   
19.    Ivan Silva    ESP   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    2m   0.035s   
20.    Mattia Pasini    ITA   Speed Master (ART CRT)    2m   0.226s   
21.    James Ellison    GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport (ART CRT)    2m   0.563s   

Stoner playing possum?

Interesting times, crutch low being the only notable difference

[El Matador]

i'd say those two situations are unrelated.

You sure about that?

I see it as more of the same from The Ben, he needs to learn how to get his shit together earlier

[gm2]

his shit was mostly tied to the 'stones, same as most.  he just had the speed to catch up with the aliens after they warmed up.

this year's tires are/are supposed to be better.  and that's capirossi's job now, or a huge part of it.