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« Reply #165 on: July 09, 2012, 12:29:19 PM » |
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I was going to reply with something of the effect, they threw a shitload of money his way, but he's already getting a shitload of money. Audi can only do so much, but they can definitely put some weight behind what Rossi and Burgess are saying and getting rid of the obstacles that are in their way, which will remain nameless. |
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« Reply #166 on: July 11, 2012, 01:18:49 AM » |
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Pedrossa just set the fastest lap time of any rider and Casey just pushed it enough to wash the front. No sabotage, no failure on the tire's part. Just racing.
Casey pushed hard into the final corner, and ate it. That was one of the smoothest crashes you will see. He was on the edge and it just ever so slightly gave up. He could not have placed it down any more gentle. |
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« Reply #167 on: July 11, 2012, 04:26:50 AM » |
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I was going to reply with something of the effect, they threw a shitload of money his way, but he's already getting a shitload of money. Audi can only do so much, but they can definitely put some weight behind what Rossi and Burgess are saying and getting rid of the obstacles that are in their way, which will remain nameless.
one thing that Audi can potentially do though is allow Corse to use the Audi racing resources to fabricate parts that Corse can't currenty do and is currently subcontracting out to have done...stuff that Yamaha and HRC have in house ( hence how and why they can churn out parts for their bikes in development so much faster)...so that resource alone can be invaluable! |
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« Reply #168 on: July 11, 2012, 04:34:34 AM » |
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Audi could actually hire a new bike designer and get rid of the guy that can't design a MotoGP bike from the ground up.
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« Reply #169 on: July 11, 2012, 04:59:13 AM » |
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Audi could actually hire a new bike designer and get rid of the guy that can't design a MotoGP bike from the ground up.
except that designing a GP bike isn't an overnight endeavour anymore....similar to how BMW taking the time that they did in terms of growing pains to build a WSBK from the ground up... |
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« Reply #170 on: July 11, 2012, 05:02:05 AM » |
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except that designing a GP bike isn't an overnight endeavour anymore....similar to how BMW taking the time that they did in terms of growing pains to build a WSBK from the ground up...
how about starting with the 2007 bike. before the CF disaster |
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« Reply #171 on: July 11, 2012, 05:33:39 AM » |
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one thing that Audi can potentially do though is allow Corse to use the Audi racing resources to fabricate parts that Corse can't currenty do and is currently subcontracting out to have done...stuff that Yamaha and HRC have in house ( hence how and why they can churn out parts for their bikes in development so much faster)...so that resource alone can be invaluable!
Especially since Audi has a lot of xp with al frames back from when they made a a8 from a al space frame. |
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« Reply #172 on: July 11, 2012, 05:34:59 AM » |
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how about starting with the 2007 bike. before the CF disaster
I'm really starting to wonder if the CF really was that much of a disaster. Even with a al twin spar frame the same handling issues are there... so there has to be something else intrinsically wrong with the bike in general. |
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« Reply #173 on: July 11, 2012, 06:30:27 AM » |
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I'm really starting to wonder if the CF really was that much of a disaster. Even with a al twin spar frame the same handling issues are there... so there has to be something else intrinsically wrong with the bike in general.
like the angle of the motor for example? now...the CF frame concept was created to solve a different issue altogether though...and it served well as I recall for to help funnel more air into the mouth of the beast.. |
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« Reply #174 on: July 11, 2012, 07:14:22 AM » |
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They want to stick with the V format, so now you have to design everything else around it. Rossi also seems to be requesting exactly what was done for the 1199, tone down the power delivery and make it smoother. Funny how they wee able to accomplish 2 things on the 1199, handling and power delivery, that they just can't get right on the GP12. Funny.
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« Reply #175 on: July 11, 2012, 07:27:10 AM » |
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I'm really starting to wonder if the CF really was that much of a disaster. Even with a al twin spar frame the same handling issues are there... so there has to be something else intrinsically wrong with the bike in general.
90* V Hopefully the narrower V motor taht's supposed to debut at Laguna will help get the bike going in the right direction. |
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« Reply #176 on: July 11, 2012, 10:35:58 AM » |
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They want to stick with the V format, plenty of Vs on the grid. this: 90* V
Hopefully the narrower V motor taht's supposed to debut at Laguna will help get the bike going in the right direction.
is (probably) the issue. it's the only thing they haven't changed and they're the only ones that use such a steep angle.. because it's the 'ducati DNA'. time to let that shit go, obviously. |
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« Reply #177 on: July 11, 2012, 07:01:34 PM » |
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is the MotoGP V4 an L or V? Is it on the same plane as the old 1198 motor or more like the new 1199?
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« Reply #178 on: July 11, 2012, 07:55:38 PM » |
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is the MotoGP V4 an L or V? Is it on the same plane as the old 1198 motor or more like the new 1199?
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« Reply #179 on: July 11, 2012, 08:39:45 PM » |
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is the MotoGP V4 an L or V? Is it on the same plane as the old 1198 motor or more like the new 1199?
90 degree V4 http://m.motomatters.com/node/5485 |
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